Which one would you choose?

Mark Lind-Hanson · Post by **Mark Lind-Hanson** » 12 Jan 2006 11:47 am

I like that response, "myself"

But for influential people to emulate I would put together my own list:
Pete Drake
Sneaky Pete Kleinow
Buddy Cage
Al Perkins
John Hughey

Joe Wright & Paul Franklin are in there too.

Ben Jones · Post by **Ben Jones** » 12 Jan 2006 11:51 am

I need to hear more steel. I only know two names on that list, and one of em only because its the hottest topic on this board. Ive been trying to get discs from the library and such but its hard to track down these guys works. No money for cd's since i gotta buy a guitar first.

Jim West · Post by **Jim West** » 12 Jan 2006 3:04 pm

Big "E" and Reece, 'nuf said.

Rick Aiello · Post by **Rick Aiello** » 12 Jan 2006 3:58 pm

Andy Iona & Bobby Nichols

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Roger Kelly · Post by **Roger Kelly** » 12 Jan 2006 4:17 pm

Herb Remington....without any hesitation.

David Wren · Post by **David Wren** » 12 Jan 2006 4:34 pm

Since this is purely imagination... I'll take Chalker!

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Paddy Long · Post by **Paddy Long** » 12 Jan 2006 4:42 pm

Buddy Emmons, Paul Franklin and Weldon Myrick for me !!

Mike Weirauch · Post by **Mike Weirauch** » 12 Jan 2006 4:49 pm

Lloyd Green
John Hughey
Buddy Emmons
John Hughey
Buddy Charlton
John Hughey

......Did I mention John Hughey?

John Pelz · Post by **John Pelz** » 12 Jan 2006 5:21 pm

Why won't SOMEONE post a Jerry Garcia tune as I have requested elsewhere, so that those of us who are completely in the dark as to who he is can be enlightened? Isn't that fair?

Hey Ray, you can hear it in its entirety here , thanks to Andy Sandoval. It's in his only post on that page.

Who would I choose? I'd like to learn from all of them, yet develop my own style. My faves, though, are Jerry Byrd & Tom Morrell. Not that I'll ever sound anything remotely like them! (And that's why I'll have my own style...)

Jim Sliff · Post by **Jim Sliff** » 12 Jan 2006 10:31 pm

Sneaky Pete
Al Perkins

followed by Buddy Emmons, Rusty Young, Daviid Lindley and the guy who is in the demo video for the Carter starter doing the ZZTop thing....

Someone hasn't heard of Jerry Garcia - that makes sense, since I'd never heard of Curly Chalker before this forum (and still haven't been pointed to any of HIS stuff). Heck, I haven't heard half the names mentioned so far.

There are a lot of different musical backgrounds here.[This message was edited by Jim Sliff on 12 January 2006 at 10:35 PM.]

David Wren · Post by **David Wren** » 13 Jan 2006 3:28 pm

Hey Ray, I'm curious, how did you come up with this list? I don't see Jerry B. or Bille Bowman on the list, but contempoaries of them are (all greats I might add). Just curious?

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Ray Montee · Post by **Ray Montee** » 13 Jan 2006 6:31 pm

THANK YOU John and David. Yours and everyone else's response are much appreciated.

Now that I've heard Jerry Garcia....thanks to the FORUM, another chapter in my life is now closed.

Well David, I've been a long time admirer of Roy Wiggins, and no matter how one tries to copy his material for the purposes of learning, it becomes immediately obvious that he was not as simple as he might at first sound to one's ear.

I've probably got as many records with Don Helms featured as I do Roy Wiggens. My Bigsby of course, was modeled after Speedy West and Bud Issacs.....and I knew most all of George Morgan's and Carl Smith's records by heart and note for note as played by their respective steel players. Lot's Billy Bowman stuff, Noel Boggs, Joaquin Murphy, Herb Remington and Leon McAuliff too.........I had many steel players that I truly admired during my formative years. I believe you mentioned Jerry Byrd....there was just something about his TONE and his delivery that once I'd heard it, I couldn't get over it. I've never kidded myself, EVER, that I could play like or think like the Man.
I just made a personal commitment that one day if at all possible, I would want to develop and have at my disposal, a sound very close and full, just like his.
Oh, I admire Lloyd Green......but can't play four measures that sound like him, either in technique or tone; nor, like Sarah Jory or that fine Canadian Steel player whose name I can never recall.[This message was edited by Ray Montee on 13 January 2006 at 06:34 PM.]

David L. Donald · Post by **David L. Donald** » 13 Jan 2006 8:46 pm

Ray,
This 1970 album "Working Man's Dead"
is one of the classics
and has a real nice country flavor in it.
Uncle John's Band, Cumberland Blues, Casey Jones,. All really fine music.
Not to jam'y or meandering either,
nice concise songs for the most part.

Can't say if there is steel I think I remember it.
But my vinal is in the USA.
Guess I will reorder it as cd.
My band STILL plays some songs from this album.

If you want an introduction to why these guys created a generation of rockers who liked country look here.
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00007LTIK/ref=pd_bbs_null_1/103-869 7422-6925455?s=music&v=glance&n=5174

This band really had several lives sort of like a cat, it comes back a bit different.
And yet with all the old memories.[This message was edited by David L. Donald on 13 January 2006 at 08:49 PM.]

Jim Phelps · Post by **Jim Phelps** » 13 Jan 2006 9:08 pm

Jim S., re. clips of Curly Chalker, best thing would be to buy "Big Hits On Big Steel", but for a freebie these links will give you a little taste.

The Rebel™, Ricky and Jeffs' MP3 Audio Clips And Tab website have a couple Chalker clips, as well as many more by other legendary players.

An excellent example of Curls' C6 style (on slow songs) is Danny Boy from Charlie McCoy's album, HERE.
It's about 1/3rd of the way down the page.

To hear other Chalker clips, you'll have to go to the main page HERE and scroll down to the box at the bottom with all the dates, click on the dates and look for Curly Chalker.

** The 1955 page has "Most of All", with Chalker on steel, HERE.

I'm sure there was another clip at this site before, of "I love you because" but I can't find it now.

I do have a couple clips of him I recorded live in a small casino in Henderson, Nevada but the sound quality is not very good, you could get an idea of his C6th style from them though.

Click Here

Now, consider yourself "pointed".

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Cody Campbell · Post by **Cody Campbell** » 13 Jan 2006 10:52 pm

Several players from the list may have played pedals at one time or another...

but DeWitt Scott would be the only one who I'd assume is known mostly as a PSG player, rather than a non-pedaler.

Correct me if I'm wrong. My ears or memory may fail me. And besides, I've only heard one record on which Scotty is credited (and there two other steelers listed as well).

And RAY...

or that fine Canadian Steel player whose name I can never recall.

Could it be Bob Lucier? Just a guess. There's many other fine one's up there, I'm sure.

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Take it HERBIE!!.... Aaaaahh, now, now..

MUSICO · Post by **MUSICO** » 14 Jan 2006 5:17 am

There are only two clips of curly chalker on rebel and rickys.

¿How do I know? You can do a google search restricted only to a site.

In google try searching for....

"I love you because" site:http://users.interlinks.net/rebel

and it shows its in 1969 but it´s Lloyd green

"paul franklin" site:http://users.interlinks.net/rebel

gives 22 results

hope this is useful to someone.

Jeremy Williams
Barcelona Spain

David L. Donald · Post by **David L. Donald** » 14 Jan 2006 6:39 am

Seen Scotty play the Frying Pan a few times,
but never on PSG.
So it seems the inverse for me LOL.
Fine either way I am sure.

Yes, Jerry Bird is VERY missing from this list...
As well as Mr. Chalker.

Jimmie Martin · Post by **Jimmie Martin** » 14 Jan 2006 6:56 am

bobbe and reece. or reece and bobbe.

Jim Sliff · Post by **Jim Sliff** » 14 Jan 2006 8:40 am

Jim P = thanks for the links. I really like the live stuff, where he's playing way "outside". Lots of stuff to study/steal.

The studio things like Danny Boy aren't my cup o' tea, but I can hear the skill/creativity being far beyond most other country stuff I hear. Not music I'd buy, but good to be exposed to it.