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Posted: 28 Jul 2003 3:06 am
by Winnie Winston
John Floyd said:
"If he is inducted this time..."

May I say, PLEASE get real!
The whole nominating voting process happens way before now.
You want Reece in? Then follow the formal nominating procedure.

JW

Posted: 28 Jul 2003 4:12 am
by Barney Y. Miller
Not only is Maurice Anderson a fine player and an asset in the steel guitar design industry, he is a fine gentleman. He has always taken time with other players helping them whatever the problem. I've watched and listened to him from the beginning of his carear up to now and not once has he refused to help others. Not many of us can say that, so my vote is for Reece!

Posted: 28 Jul 2003 9:46 am
by Fred Shannon
ATTN All: Mr. Winston is absolutely correct. A formal nomination is required and there have been several that have been submitted, formally, for Reece's nomination in the past. I've taken the time to find the URL that specifies the nomination process that must be met for induction. I've also cut and pasted, from this same URL, the method, and who has been chosen as a Board member, of which Mr. Winston actively participates. Here is the URL:
http://www.scottysmusic.com/abouthof.htm

Here is a list of the items required by the Nomination Form and also a list of the current Board Membership, along with the the method by which they are chosen--I was unable to a find term limit, which I guess is lifetime. Dunno:



Nominating Form

1. Name and list the notable artists and bands with whom the nominee has performed and recorded, as well as the duration.

2. Describe any touring history of the nominee, the length of that touring, and the names of touring bands or artists that he/she has performed with. If the nominee was primarily a club musician, list the names and locations of those clubs and the years spent in club performing.

3. Describe the influences the nominee may have had on other players, such as projecting an identifiable style of playing and innovative musical executions. Provide examples of his/her professional expertise, playing prowess, dramatic delivery, etc. and explain how these qualities influenced others to take up the instrument.

4. List the nominee's recordings as a side musician with vocal artists and his/her instrumental recordings. Assess those musical productions for their quality, innovation, and what influence such may have had on other steel guitar players. List any compositions that may have become classic recordings (tunes that other players feel compelled to learn and likewise perform).

5. Describe the nominee's efforts as an instructor, innovations in teaching methods and notable students who learned from the nominee and also pursued a professional music career. List all other instructional materials published by the nominee and any other writings that advanced the musical performance and/or contributed to the public knowledge of the steel guitar.

6. If the nominee has been involved in the manufacture of steel guitars, explain any mechanical innovations and craftsmanship examples that he/she brought to the guitar building industry and/or enhanced the performing capabilities of the instrument. How long was the nominee engaged in this activity?

7. List other activities the nominee has engaged in that advanced the instrument, expanded public knowledge and acceptance of the instrument, or aided in its proliferation. Examples of such activities might include promoting and/or conducting concerts, forming steel guitar clubs, organizing promotional events, producing, writing and publishing, etc. List the continuous years the nominee devoted to these various activities.

The Steel Guitar Convention Board

Bob Maickel - Floral Park, NY.
Bobby Caldwell - St. Louis, MO.
DeWitt Scott - St. Louis, MO.
Fred Layman - Sevierville, TN.
Herb Steiner - Austin, TX.
Jeff Newman - Watertown, TN.
Tom Bradshaw - Concord, CA.
Winnie Winston - Tawa, New Zealand

Board Membership Method of Choice:

All Board members are involved with processing nominations and making decisions concerning the Hall of Fame induction process. Board members attain their membership by first being nominated for Board membership by the Board Chairman, DeWitt Scott, who submits all potential Board members to existing Board members for approval.


BTW: the URL lists August 1 as the cutoff date for the nominations...Hope this helps clear up some of the confusion I see in some of the posts.


Fred



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Posted: 28 Jul 2003 12:51 pm
by Al Marcus
Fred- Thanks for posting all the conditions needed for HOF nominataion. That says it all!....al

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Posted: 28 Jul 2003 1:19 pm
by David L. Donald
<SMALL>...Board members attain their membership by first being nominated for Board membership by the Board Chairman, DeWitt Scott, who submits all potential Board members to existing Board members for approval. </SMALL>
This explains a lot, nothing against Scotty, but it really seems a closed shop to me.

It doesn't say how many board members must vote yes for a new board member, or for a candidate to be in the HOF. Though I suspect unanimous.
If so, any one voter can prevent someone he thinks might disagree with himself from getting on.
Kind of stifles disenting opinion one might think.


Posted: 29 Jul 2003 7:47 am
by John Floyd
Thanks Mr Winston For the Tip, now I can plan my finances Since I know I won't be wasting any money on St Louis Trips in the future. There are a number of shows that I prefer to St Louis anyway. St Louis May be the Approximate geographical Center of the US, but its not exactly the Center of the Steel Guitar World anymore, At Least in my eyes, and maybe a growing number of other people.

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Posted: 29 Jul 2003 10:06 am
by Gary Walker
Again, let's not wait. We still have Reece and will for many years to come but let's do it while everyone can appreciate it. I feel it's better to give a rose to a warm hand than to a cold one. After someone is gone, praise only makes us feel good but not the honoree.

Posted: 29 Jul 2003 11:45 pm
by David L. Donald
That's a ditto.

Posted: 30 Jul 2003 7:42 am
by Joe Casey
James ,I guess this means you won't be lining up for a forum picture in St. Louis this year? Image

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Posted: 30 Jul 2003 7:50 am
by CrowBear Schmitt
and another Ditto to Gary W!
would gettin Smiley on the Steel Guitar Convention Board help things along ?

Posted: 30 Jul 2003 7:33 pm
by David Wright
After reading what Winnie Winston wrote, I say to you Winnie, YOU GET REAL !!! Image
I know he hasn't been Inducted, and he may never be inducted, but thats a whole other story!!!!!!isn't it????? you mean to tell me no one has ever nominated Maurice???ever!!!!, I was born in the dark , but it wasn't last night!!!!!!! Image

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Posted: 30 Jul 2003 9:21 pm
by Bill Simmons
Something does not add up here if that's all that is needed to nominate Reece...isn't Bobby Caldwell a guitar player (and a great one at that)? Interesting that a guitar player would be on the steel guitar board. Maybe it's politics? I agree with you David Wright!

Posted: 31 Jul 2003 5:39 am
by Richard Gonzales
I could not agree with you more David!

The SGHOF has tarnished their esteem by passing over some very deserving individuals
THAT HAVE been nominated MANY TIMES !! They have not been accepted due to the members own personal likes and dislikes.

The steel guitar community never had a say in their selections and never will! You may call it what you want, but to me it is a closed private club!!

Until they get full support from the steel guitar community it will only be plaques on a wall and NO MORE!!

Posted: 31 Jul 2003 7:49 am
by J D Sauser
I think we´ve had this many times here, and sadly most times it started nicely and turned "grunchy" just like this thread.
Yes, things have changed since the new MSA Co. elected to go long ways to resolve some issues that may have been left pending since the closing of the old MSA Co. and also some personal issues, namely with one SGHOF board member seem to have been resolved and hopefuly put to rest. So, there is new hope and this is good news. Image

I think that the SGHOF has it's rules and that if we want to move anything for our friend, mentor or steel guitar hero (all of which Maurice is to me and understandably to many here and around the world), we will have to put in just a little more work than just posting our "nominations" and "count me in´s" or beating the institution we would like to see our "nominate" inducted into so badly and rather use that window of opportunity offered by the SGHOF and properly submit our nominations to the SGHOF board.
I have done this twice in the past and on both times I have received a very friendly letter of aknowledgement from Scotty Sr. with the asurance that he would personally see to it that my nomination would be presented to the board, a gesture I very much appreciated and tells a world about this man, who by the way I think I may say is a friend of Maurice´s.

Regarding Mr. Winston´s "get real" post I feel that I have to reply that we can't possibly know if Maurice has or has not been elected for next year´s induction(s), as we are told that these elections are held in secret one year ahead during the ISG-Convention board meeting, so hope is as real as it gets, for us at least.

... J-D.
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Posted: 31 Jul 2003 7:51 am
by John Floyd
David, Thanks. Image

Mr Winston Made it clear that, Reece hasn't been selected for this year. Isn't he supposed to wait for the official announcement? I guess Integretity is something the Board takes with a grain of salt, just like they do when they appoint board members. The Steel Guitar community doesn't need this kind of Good ole boys club to represent them. Maybe its time for a change.

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Posted: 31 Jul 2003 7:57 am
by David Wright

Those who think the battle is about Maurice are WRONG. Its about what’s right, what’s just, and in memory of so many great players who have been passed over because of jealousy and personal agendas and vendettas of board members who have tunnel vision, and who are elected for life.

When you think about it very clearly, its apparent those that go into the HOF are there ONLY because of those members of the board and the steel guitar community has absolutely no say so about it. It’s a closed- door organization with no checks or balances to be sure it is run in a moral and just manner. So in reality it’s the HOF, which only those board members created and wish to see. No one knows who has been nominated. No one knows how many. nominations have been submitted and etc
I have offten wondered why my Dad hasn't been put in, I fell he contributed as much to the developement of steel guitar as any one out there...


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Posted: 31 Jul 2003 12:49 pm
by Roger Andrusky
I know I'm a "nobody" in the world of steel guitar fame, but maybe THAT's the biggest reason he should be there! Because he's helped so many "regular" guys/gals like me so much with so much kindness and willingness to serve. Never pretentious, pompous, assuming or looking for praise. His whole purpose is to help as many people as he can wherever and whenever its needed. I know you like to be called "Reece", but to you with all due respect, Mr. Maurice Anderson, I, along with with all of your friends here on the Forum and in the world, KNOW you deserve the honor! Here's my vote! - Roger

Posted: 31 Jul 2003 3:24 pm
by Bobby Lee
John Floyd wrote
<SMALL>Mr Winston Made it clear that, Reece hasn't been selected for this year.</SMALL>
That's not what I read. He said that Reece has not been nominated this year. The voting takes place during the convention. If he hasn't been nominated, there's no chance that he will be selected because his name isn't among those being considered.

Who here has nominated Reece, and when? I know, it may seem silly to resubmit your nomination once a year, but apparently that's what it takes to get the name before the board.

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Posted: 31 Jul 2003 4:42 pm
by Jim Smith
<SMALL>The voting takes place during the convention.</SMALL>
Wouldn't the voting have to be done quite some time before the convention? Image Otherwise, they wouldn't have time to get the plaque made, and ensure the honorees attend the convention.

In the past, new HOF electees' names have been posted on this Forum well before the convention. The electees for this year were posted here a couple weeks ago as well.

Posted: 31 Jul 2003 4:59 pm
by Bobby Lee
The voting for next year will take place at this year's convention.

I would prefer that people not "leak" the name of the inductee(s) on the Forum before the convention. If the Board wants to use the Forum to make an announcement, that's fine, but I feel that it's not proper for other people to post rumours or speculation before the official announcement.