Posted: 12 Nov 2005 4:19 pm
Keith, would you say that the Cannabis Rex sounds loud and efficient to you? Like a JBL? The efficiency rating of 102 seems pretty good. I'm interested.
Pete, I was always afraid of those EV's because of that GIANT magnet and gravity's strong pull on it. My JBL loaded Deluxe is already kind of heavy for a small amp. I never really got to know that EV speaker, but there seem to be a lot of steel and guitar players who just love them. I've heard that the EV Force is actually a great sounding steel speaker. It looks a good deal lighter.
The thing that just kills me every time is how dramatically louder my Deluxe is with that JBL D120 compared to a stock Fender speaker. It seems like the power is more than doubled with the JBL.
Since this thread is a comparison of the Twin and Deluxe, it seems that the real tonal issue has a lot to do with the midrange. The Deluxe has a fixed midrange resistor of 6.8k. The Twin has a 10k audio pot there. That means that to get the midrange voicing of the deluxe, you'd need to put the Twin's midrange knob up around like 8 or so (since it's an audio taper pot). The Twin can give you a lot more scoop. You could always change that 6.8k resistor in the Deluxe to something like 3k to achieve more of the steel guitar scoop. I've seen some people disable the tremolo and put a midrange pot in one of those places.
Someone commented on how the 6V6 may be a more midrangey sounding tube. I'm guessing that notion came from the heavy midrange voicing of the 6V6 amps like a Princeton or Deluxe Reverb. I've actually found the 6V6 to be a very sweet and fat sounding tube, just not that powerful. I've considered building an amp that uses a quartet of 6V6's to get about 45 watts or so. There's a different kind of breakup to a 6V6 that's very cool sounding and different than a 6L6.
I read somewhere that Lloyd Green used a JBL loaded Deluxe Reverb (blackface) for recording until he switched to Twins in the later '60s.
Nice thread. Two of the greatest amps on the planet. Here we are 40+ years later and they're still unbeatable.
Brad
Pete, I was always afraid of those EV's because of that GIANT magnet and gravity's strong pull on it. My JBL loaded Deluxe is already kind of heavy for a small amp. I never really got to know that EV speaker, but there seem to be a lot of steel and guitar players who just love them. I've heard that the EV Force is actually a great sounding steel speaker. It looks a good deal lighter.
The thing that just kills me every time is how dramatically louder my Deluxe is with that JBL D120 compared to a stock Fender speaker. It seems like the power is more than doubled with the JBL.
Since this thread is a comparison of the Twin and Deluxe, it seems that the real tonal issue has a lot to do with the midrange. The Deluxe has a fixed midrange resistor of 6.8k. The Twin has a 10k audio pot there. That means that to get the midrange voicing of the deluxe, you'd need to put the Twin's midrange knob up around like 8 or so (since it's an audio taper pot). The Twin can give you a lot more scoop. You could always change that 6.8k resistor in the Deluxe to something like 3k to achieve more of the steel guitar scoop. I've seen some people disable the tremolo and put a midrange pot in one of those places.
Someone commented on how the 6V6 may be a more midrangey sounding tube. I'm guessing that notion came from the heavy midrange voicing of the 6V6 amps like a Princeton or Deluxe Reverb. I've actually found the 6V6 to be a very sweet and fat sounding tube, just not that powerful. I've considered building an amp that uses a quartet of 6V6's to get about 45 watts or so. There's a different kind of breakup to a 6V6 that's very cool sounding and different than a 6L6.
I read somewhere that Lloyd Green used a JBL loaded Deluxe Reverb (blackface) for recording until he switched to Twins in the later '60s.
Nice thread. Two of the greatest amps on the planet. Here we are 40+ years later and they're still unbeatable.
Brad
