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Posted: 23 Jun 2006 9:09 am
by Fred Shannon
"George Strait's 50 Number One hits". Guess that about sums it up.
Phred
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Posted: 23 Jun 2006 9:19 am
by John Steele
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Tell that to the label gurus and radio programmers, who shove some Shania Twain tune down everyone's throat in constant rotation, proclaiming it is her "next big hit" before it's even available for purchase to the public.
Sorry, I don't buy that.
If I wrote a book tomorrow, and hadn't sold a single copy, all I'd need would be Oprah Winfrey or some other talking head to endorse it. I'd know it was a "hit" before I went to bed that night, or sold one copy.
Blecch...
-John
Posted: 23 Jun 2006 9:27 am
by Marlin Smoot
George Strait...a classic case study in how to do it right. Erv Woolsey his manager should also get credit along with the great musicians who played on his records.
George picks his songs to record so he has a great ear. He's even been with the same major record label from day 1. Most of the guys in his band are still the same or have been there a real long time.
More #1 singles in the history of country music as a solo artist than anyone else and he's far from retirement. I wish he'd make another movie.
One last thing...a country artist that wears a cowboy hat and cowboy boots who actually can ride a horse and rope cattle...interesting.
He's the real deal, something a lot of Nashville 'country' artist have seem to have forgotten; be real.
Posted: 23 Jun 2006 9:41 am
by Webb Kline
I thought the 50 number ones CD was kinda boring and I love George Strait. But, I guess that sums up my opinion of what make a number on hit. While there are some good songs in that collection, most of his best work is found on cuts that didn't make #1 in my opinion.
I flat out love to sit behind my steel and play along with his band. It's fun stuff.
Posted: 23 Jun 2006 9:55 am
by David Cobb
George is one of my favorites and his earlier albums had good ballads, uptempo songs, and Western Swing.
After watching a dull video built around a fourth rate song off of his last album, I remembered why I don't feel compelled to buy his albums anymore.
He's been coasting for awhile now.
Brett, besides Paul F., I recall that Buddy Emmons and also John Hughey, if I'm remembering correctly, have done work on a number of George's most popular and in IMO, best selections.
Don't want to overlook 'em.
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Posted: 23 Jun 2006 10:02 am
by Charles Davidson
George IS country,Bo donk-a-donk IS NOT,Should'nt be Hard to understand that.
Posted: 23 Jun 2006 10:13 am
by Erv Niehaus
George Strait and Willie Nelson shouldn't even be mentioned in the same sentence. That old doper isn't capable of shining George's shoes! Talk about someone living on their reputation!
Posted: 23 Jun 2006 10:48 am
by Brett Anderson
Per my Swedish brother. Your likes are similar to mine. I've always loved George's album cuts too. You've mentioned a couple that i have forgotten about. Off to Limewire I go. David C. Theresa responded in a post a few months back that there were only a few Paul didn't play on. Maybe she will refresh our memory.
Posted: 23 Jun 2006 10:48 am
by Steve Hinson
I like'em both!Willie is one of the greatest songwriters in the history of our music...and has made some truly great records...just my opinion...
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Posted: 23 Jun 2006 10:49 am
by Theresa Galbraith
I'd rather hear George sing a country song.
No one is forgetting the steel men before Paul started recording with George.
George has 50 #1's for a reason. He gets better with age!
JMHO<font size="1" color="#8e236b"><p align="center">[This message was edited by Theresa Galbraith on 23 June 2006 at 11:51 AM.]</p></FONT>
Posted: 23 Jun 2006 10:53 am
by Bo Borland
to repeat Ray Minich "we really shouldn't be doin this"
His latest cd is full of great songs and great steel from Paul, it is his best complete album in a while.
Honkytonkville was very good too, I loved "Tell Me Something Bad about Tulsa" and Merles' " My Life's Been Grand"
Georges' voice has mellowed and sounds better than ever. If you listen closely you will hear that he has been listening to that box set of Merle that he mentions in "End of The World" .
Can anyone recall another singer with over 50 #1's ?
Besides that, I learn more pedal steel from his albums than any other place.
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Posted: 23 Jun 2006 11:10 am
by Kirk Hamre
What is a kadonka donk bonk a donk anyway?
Posted: 23 Jun 2006 11:22 am
by Ron Page
<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica">quote:</font><HR><SMALL>Can anyone recall another singer with over 50 #1's ?
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If I'm not mistaken, both Conway Twitty and Merle Haggard topped 50 #1's. I think Conway might have edged Merle by 1, but Hag's still recording.
By nown, George must surely be the all-time leader in that category, or will be soon.
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Posted: 23 Jun 2006 1:04 pm
by Theresa Galbraith
Yeah, George has probably hit #51 or so? He's it in my book for true country!
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Posted: 23 Jun 2006 1:15 pm
by Jason Schofield
I love George. His albums are very consistent in quality. He can play the old western swing stuff and always has steel guitar and fiddles. His album "Always Never the Same" is amazing from start to finish. One of my all time favs. I'll admit that some of his tunes get a little syrupy sometimes, but it's still really good tasting syrup. I hope George is still touring in his late 60s, then he'll really be considered legend.
Posted: 23 Jun 2006 2:04 pm
by Jeff Garden
I've seen George Strait live 4 times and the one word that comes to mind is "professional". He may be a man of few words when he's not singing but that's just the way I like it - no need for fancy light shows and pyrotechnics. He knows why you're there (to hear a great concert) and he gives you your money's worth. It's also refreshing to see a show start on time as opposed to when some swelled head egomaniac keeps a crowd waiting an hour, does five songs, and calls it a nite. George has a super tight band, always tasteful steel from Mike Daley, and consistent vocals from himself and his backup singers. Also, little wasted time between songs - one song goes right into the next. Any time I've seen him interviewed he comes across as an extremely modest person - unlike some of the overhyped "new country" acts that have to constantly remind us how great they are. Overall - a big thumbs up for George and the band. One of my all time favorite songs is still Amarillo By Morning.
Posted: 23 Jun 2006 2:04 pm
by David Tunnell
Strait has had at least 51 number ones. The single off the "50 Number Ones" album, "I Hate Everything", went to #1, too. His album "Somewhere Down In Texas" came out since then, so there may be more #1s off of that. Strait eclipsed Conway Twitty's record a few years back.
If you don't like George Strait, you just don't like country. If I could play behind anybody in the world alive today, my first choice would be Ray Price, second would be Mandy Barnett (if you don't know who that is, you owe it to yourself to find out), and third would be George Strait. But, if George Strait wanted to call me, I would make arrangements to move him to the top of the list.
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Posted: 23 Jun 2006 3:35 pm
by Larry Strawn
David T.
If George S. called me to play, I sure wouldn't have to put him on hold while I thought about it!! LOL....
Larry
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Posted: 23 Jun 2006 3:57 pm
by Ben Slaughter
<SMALL>I played country music for 5 years or so before I heard any of the lyrics. Think of it as a classic art form. Note selection and arrangement are the important things. The lyrics just give the vocalist some syllables to sing. They aren't meant to be modern, earth-shattering poetry.</SMALL>
I bet I'll hear a song 5 or 10 times before I actually hear the lyric.
Like so many others, King George's album cuts are always my favorites. Tons of great swing tunes, lots of great C6 work.
I believe Mr. Emmons has done quite a few sessions with GS over the years, including several (if not all) of the cuts on the "Pure Country" album.
Posted: 23 Jun 2006 10:08 pm
by Bobby Lee
I don't believe in "number one hits". There's no such thing anymore. the market is so fragmented, everyone can have a "number one hit" in their own niche. It's totally meaningless.
Posted: 24 Jun 2006 4:48 am
by Tony Prior
I have the 50 #1's CD..
I don't think there are 50 #1's on that CD.
I like GS a lot, but I also tend to agree that much of the music is similar and the songs can be defined as a continuation of the last song we heard.
The formula is correct though and I'm fine with it. I have learned many things by listening to and playing GS tunes .
t
Posted: 24 Jun 2006 5:26 am
by Marlin Smoot
The way songs are considered #1 are from monitored stations from publications such as Billboard and Radio & Records, two of the most respected publications in the industry.
Songs are encoded...so a computer can pick up the spin on a monitored station (usually in the top 100 markets) The total spins are recorded. This method determines, each week where the top 40 (Radio & Records) or top 75 (Billboard) songs lands on the chart. There are rules and regs...too much detail to go into here but each publication can tell you how they do it.
Todays songs, on each chart, have a proven number of spins that classify them as such. Too much is riding on the success of a song from the sales perspective to the success or continued success of the artist including booking, concert sales, management etc...
The industry needed/demanded a better measurement system of the songs and charts for all commercial formats thus, the monitored system...viewed by industry experts as the best system to date. It has been used this way first by Billboard and then by Radio & Records. It has been used for nearly 15 years now.
Posted: 24 Jun 2006 6:14 am
by Erv Niehaus
George Jones has a CD out with HIS choice of songs from his 50 YEARS in the business. They aren't necessarily his no. 1 hits, it's the songs that HE liked best. Good record!
Posted: 24 Jun 2006 12:56 pm
by Theresa Galbraith
It's hard to believe you guys would say negative remarks about a true country artist like George.