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Posted: 16 Nov 2004 4:02 am
by Mark Metdker
Boys, I have a confession. We were playing a gig this past Saturday night. It is a place known for TEXAS music, which means mostly country, but you can kinda do whatever. Anyway, I show up in black sweat pants, my Sho-Bud t-shirt, tennis shoes, and a toboggan with my sunglasses on. The other guys in my band were calling me "The Western Edge" Anyway, we ended playing 3 encores and at least 3 women that I saw decided to show us a couple of things they probably shouldn't have in a public place.
It may not have been "right" for a so called country band, but it sure was a lot of fun! And come to find out, I was dressed like about 80% of the clientele.

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Posted: 16 Nov 2004 4:37 am
by Jerry Hayes
Darryl Worley's been to Iraq to entertain our troops a couple of times and much to his credit (unlike some other entertainers) he's supported the President and the troops and did his part. Also his great tune "Have You Forgotten" says a lot about the guy in my book. I don't care what he wears on any stage, he's the real deal and not ashamed he's an American. I can indentify with a guy like that. Have a good 'un...JH

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Posted: 16 Nov 2004 4:54 am
by Jason Odd
Charles French, you wrote: "Change is usually not for the better. I prefer the 50's & 60's. No serial killer's or child molesters, at least not in my neck of the woods."

No, probably nto that you noticed. One of Australia's first real serial killers was an American serviceman who went on a spree while in Australia, during the 1940s and WWII.

Things people forget about the 1950s, the Korean War, the McCarthy hearings, the Cold War, Segregation and that Elvis was originally marketed as country as no-one really knew what else to call that rocked up hillbilly stuff.

Posted: 16 Nov 2004 7:37 am
by Fred Jack
Theresa, Do I detect a note of sarcasm?
Regards, Fred

Posted: 16 Nov 2004 9:50 am
by Jeff Lampert
Country music is just following along in our culture. Look at video games now compared to 30 years ago. Reality TV. Rap compared to soul music of the 60's. The fact is that you may not like it, but it is what sells. Just imagine - in 20 years we're going to be immersed in a culture that will fondly look back to this era.

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Posted: 16 Nov 2004 11:03 am
by Leslie Ehrlich
Grumble grumble grumble ... no steel or fiddle ... grumble grumble ... no solos ... grumble grumble grumble ... don't sound like Ray or Connie ... grumble grumble ... generation gap ... grumble grumble grumble ... more interested in making money than making music ... grumble grumble ... poorly dressed ... grumble grumble ... they act like idiots onstage ... grumble grumble ... what a bunch of noise ... grumble grumble grumble ... whatever happened to good old fashioned country music ... grumble grumble grumble ...

Posted: 16 Nov 2004 12:36 pm
by Herb Steiner
Leslie, you are 100% correct! ROTFLMAO! Much appreciated. Image

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Posted: 16 Nov 2004 5:16 pm
by Donny Hinson
Herb, my man, 'ya gotta point, there!

John...there's a distinct difference between funny clothes ("comic" outfits or rural garb), and plain ol' "sloppy dressing".

(Those folks on "Hee-Haw" weren't fashion mavens, but they would <u>never</u> be mistaken for "street people".) Image <FONT SIZE=1 COLOR="#8e236b"><p align=CENTER>[This message was edited by Donny Hinson on 16 November 2004 at 05:18 PM.]</p></FONT>

Posted: 16 Nov 2004 7:50 pm
by Tommy Taylor
I believe the singers and musicians should dress nice out of respect for the opry.

All they would have to do is look at Tommy White. He is a class act!


Tommy

Posted: 16 Nov 2004 9:49 pm
by Howard Tate
While I prefer the entertainers to dress nice, I know change happens. The Nudie suits went out a while back, and they added to the show, but I don't really miss them. I hate to drummers that play on stage without shirts especially. I hate that the music is not as country as it used to be, but I thank God that The people like Shania for instance, still have great musicians backing them. A lot of the stuff sounds like rock but as long as they have those great steelers and fiddlers and guitar pickers I'll sit through the parts I hate just to get to the parts I love.

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Posted: 17 Nov 2004 4:58 am
by John Lacey
"Has an American ever won a Canadian Country Music award?" Ya, Terri Clarke just did.

Posted: 17 Nov 2004 6:03 am
by Rick Garrett
Man yall crack me up!!!

Terri Clark won in Canada huh. Isn't she the one with the all girl band? maybe she'll move there.

Rick

Posted: 17 Nov 2004 8:00 am
by Don Joslin
Maybe I missed it if it was a joke but Terri Clark was born in Montreal, Quebec and raised in Medicine Hat, Alberta.

Don

PS - I do think that if you are making it big enough to appear on the Grand Old Opry you could probably afford a shirt Image


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Posted: 17 Nov 2004 8:57 am
by Gene Jones
Here comes one of the "old" guys again with his sage (but not definitive) observations!

I grew up in an era where red pants, a red shirt, a white shirt, black pants, and red and black neckerchiefs were the standard wardrobe for any musician who worked casual or pickup jobs.

When you accepted a job your final question was always, "red & black, or black & red?", and everyone knew what that meant.

...then in later years after I had taken an extended vacation from playing, I found that everyone "did their own thing" about what to wear for a job.

Personally, I like the most recent trend better. Uniforms are for the military!
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Posted: 17 Nov 2004 9:35 am
by Mark Metdker
Yeah Gene, uniforms are for the military AND the fire department! Maybe that's why you and I don't like the "uniform" look anymore!

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Posted: 17 Nov 2004 3:43 pm
by James Cann
I remember the only time I functioned as an agent/player for an upscale resort gig, and the band I was working with at the time walked out on the booking when I (was asked and) asked them to wear white shirts. Luckily, I was able to call in others that I knew to save the gig (who appreciated the work and who wore white shirts), but I separated from these previous clowns fast and swore never to again be an agent. Who needs that nonsense!

Having said that, real professionals, among other things, realize that performing has to do with being larger than life, something which most audiences appreciate. Whenever they appear, onstage or off, they look, talk, and behave in ways that set them apart, that make you want to see, meet, and if you can, work with them--and in any of these, they often tend to treat you as if you were the big shot!

It all comes down to understnding what respect is all about.

James
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Posted: 17 Nov 2004 10:46 pm
by Kevin Hatton
Well put James. My opinion exactly.

Posted: 18 Nov 2004 6:12 am
by Drew Howard
The Del McCoury and Doyle Lawson bands wear suits, and they are at the top of the bluegrass world. Sets them apart from everywhere else.

BUT...the honky-tonks I play don't have a dress code. Shoes, pants and shirt suffice.

:>)

Drew


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Posted: 18 Nov 2004 11:51 am
by John Steele
Ok... well, if it's all about clothes, then y'all don't have to wonder why some circus act like Montgomery Gentry has taken over the stage.
I'm gonna quit practicing at night, and start hanging around in the costume shops, learning how to twirl a mic stand.

-John

Posted: 19 Nov 2004 8:33 pm
by James Cann
Well, not to rub fur the wrong way, but clothes probable wouldn't count any more than wearing neat looking, clean ones, showing up on time, keeping gear in working order, staying sober, interfacing with customers and audience, being gracious and polite, etc., etc., etc.

Posted: 20 Nov 2004 7:16 am
by John Lacey
"Maybe I missed it if it was a joke but Terri Clark was born in Montreal, Quebec and raised in Medicine Hat, Alberta." Yes, she was, Don but she gave up her Canadian citizenship and became an American. Fine with me, but then she shoudn't be eligible for our Canadian Country Music awards.