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For openers, Montgomery Gentry were bad-no talent-never had any. Rascal Flats-when they perform you won't find a skunk within a hundred miles. Other than the ones mentioned above, the rest weren't that bad. The problem lies with the song selection. I don't know if they were allowed to select their own songs or Mr. Clark picked their material. As far as Alan Jackson, his presentation was perfect as always. If I had to pick a song for Kenny C. I would have chosen his latest "She's Got It All"-great steel solo; Toby Keith "I Love This Bar"; Brad Paisley "Celebrity". Loretta Lynn really needed a band to stay on key--"Coal Miners Daughter" would have been better. Why not Vince Gill singing "Look At Us"? Last but not least, Ray Price "The Nite Life" with Buddy Emmons on steel. Same people but a different producer for the show WOULD have made a world of difference. Joe

The demographic for this music is 18 to 35 year old women. How many people here are in that category?

Yes, they've hijaaked the "country" name, because that's what 18 to 35 year old women like to think they listen to. Get over it, guys. What we like is now called "classic country". It doesn't have TV award shows in Las Vegas or top 40 radio stations, but it's not too hard to find if you look for it.

I caught about 4 minutes of the show, in 1 minute segments. There was an Australian guy with an open shirt who was really bad. There was a "redneck woman" in jeans and a t-shirt who was really bad. There was Reba tring to look 20 years younger than she is. There was Kid Rock with a cigar prop acting goofy. After that, I didn't bother checking that channel anymore.

Maybe if they had broadcast in HD-TV, it would have at least held my attention. A bad show in low res video with bad audio mixes isn't gonna hold me these days, unless the music is really great. That music isn't.

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Well if you want to know what happened to "Country Music", you should have tuned in to the "American Idol" show.

You had two young girls (along with a myriad of youngsters and so-called adults) screaming, hollering and yelling their songs out (they called it singing) to a full house screaming and yelling (they called it applause) and three judges trying to prove to anyone, including themselves and the viewing audience, that these two screamers were the greatest singers ever in the history of man.

Until the 50's, adults overlooked kidstuff and called it what it was and relied on the tried and proven true feeling, "they will grow out of it if no one pays any attention to them".

Then with the help of Dr Spock and other intellectual idiots, they started to indulge ther kids, deify their kids and make them into little gods. So they indulged every want and fantasy those little hellions even hinted at.

And if that was not enough, the adults started to accept and even mimic the immature adolescent nonsense of their kids.

Sadly today, those little "gods" have grown up and they have NEVER known or heard a single note of music in their lives; that was not played 80 DB too loud; or screamed from the tops of some so-called singer's lungs. Too them, that is the ONLY "music" they have EVER known. Anything else is "Dentist music" and that INCLUDES Country Music, sadly.

So music of ANY genre' is now a hodgepodge of homogonized screamers (they call themselves singers) and dazzlers regardless of what it is called. It is all the same. You can tune into any radio station in Atlanta and you will hear the exact same screamers and yellers called singers. Doesn't matter what station you tune to.

The same goes I imagine from coast to coast. Same goes for the DJ's. They do NOT know the meaning of speaking anymore. There is only one level and that is in the extreme righthand side of that red area on their audio level meters.

Same goes for TV. It does not matter whether it is in the program or the commercial, the louder it is and the screechier they scream, the raunchier they look, the more immoral and indecent they act or dance (if one can call it dancing) it is called music and everyone loves and accepts it apparently. Well almost everyone...

And so it goes...

Dear friends, there is an old saying, "you are what you eat" I will coin a new one for today's music, "music is whatever the masses listen to!"

May Jesus have mercy on our souls for what man has wrought; and worse, permitted in their offsprings. Some of us predicted what is happening today, the day we first heard (and worse), saw Elvis. And he was a sunday school choir boy in comparison to what is happening today.

And they call it music. Yeah right. I believe that if Ray Price was 25 yrs old today, he would starve to death. Same goes for all the rest of the great singers of yesteryear that we love and admire so much.

If they don't dazzle them with blinding lights, deafening noise (they call it music) and warp speed video shots that includes ensconcing the so-called singer in a constant barrage of 360 degree paranoia (they call it panarama) and video diahreah, they are not interested in going to see it or buying it.

If a singer was to stand up there and sing a beautiful "Soft Rain" song, strumming a beautiful Martin guitar with a band that was not playing at 180DB, they would throw everything including their panties and bras(IF they were wearing any) at him. Only they would not be throwing it out of adoration; but because they would think that singer had come from another universe; and was an alien to them and what they call music.

Incidently, I did not watch the Country Music show. I am sorry I watched the AMI show. If it had not been that Diana DeGarmo lives a short distance from me I wouldn't have. And I am sorry I did. Because she proved the above beyond any shadow of a doubt. The award went to the loudest screamer.

Oh well,

carl

<SMALL>For openers, Montgomery Gentry were bad-no talent-never had any.</SMALL>

What do you mean, no talent? Have you ever seen anyone carry around and spin a microphone stand as well as he does?

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<FONT SIZE=1 COLOR="#8e236b"><p align=CENTER>[This message was edited by Fred Shannon on 06 December 2004 at 01:36 AM.]</p></FONT>

AMEN to all the above !

Carl West

Allyson Krause and James Taylor didn't win anything for "How's The World Treating You" at the Country Music Awards, but they won a Grammy which is even better and proves that there is still a market for good music.<FONT SIZE=1 COLOR="#8e236b"><p align=CENTER>[This message was edited by Andy Greatrix on 27 May 2004 at 05:24 PM.]</p></FONT><FONT SIZE=1 COLOR="#8e236b"><p align=CENTER>[This message was edited by Andy Greatrix on 27 May 2004 at 05:30 PM.]</p></FONT>

Yeah, I never thought I'd see the day that I outlived Country Music, but I beleive I have

Montgomery Gentry, that is what represents Country Music? As Jimmy Hall said "Talent is no longer needed in todays Country music. It is also a fact that dressing up for a major show, shows the class of the acts. I only got through Monkey Gentry until I put on a movie.Seems like I made the right decision.I did see that future lengendary Country singer "Kid Rock" was there too.

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How did that mess get out of our LOINS????????JENNINGS

An Awards Show??? NAW, It was a pre-funeral party for Real Country Music as we once knew it. I shut off my TV before the mikestand twirlers got through with their first verse. I won't support them by watching such a sorry show, that insults the intelligence of our country legends and their audience, which I am proud to be part of! "Mr. DJ, Won't you please play, A REAL COUNTRY SONG!!!" (Dale Watson 3:12)

I prefer to listen to what's being referred to as "Alternative Country" Or "Alt. Country". All it is is country music the way we remember it. Artists like Dale Watson, Heather Myles, Wayne Hancock, The Derailers, Bill Kirchen, Robbie Fulks, Dallas Wayne, The Derailers, BR549 etc. ... are trying their best to keep the tradition alive. It must be pretty tough to do when they're getting no support from the industry whatsoever!

Ironic isn't it? We have to listen to something called "Alt. Country" in order to hear what we use to call "Country Music", because "Rock Music" decided to change their name to "Country Music". Geeez! I's starting to sound like a bad Dr Seuss story!

Robbie Bossert

Also, It would have been nice AND respectful to see Ray Price receive his award. But, the CMA, "Country Music Assassins" didn't see fit to televise that event.

Robbie Bossert

It was the ACM, not CMA awards.

Doyle, Country music is still around. Not on TV but it's out there.Tonight at the Warren American Legion,Warren,Pa.Yours Truely is on steel.All over this country and world, country is going to be played tonight. Many Forum members are going to be out there tonight playing their hearts out. No matter where you live, SUPPORT YOUR LOCAL MUSICIANS! Joe

Gone are the days of a stand up singer with great melodies and lyrics with talented back-up musicians.
It seems people want to be entertained with all the jumping, and lights and fireworks etc.

To give you an idea of how our young people view things. I read this in a Reader's Digest.

Britney Spears and her entourage went to the Sundance Film Festival. In the middle of a movie, Britney and her gang walked out. When asked why they walked out she replied," These movies are weird, you have to think about them."

And thats what the audiences want. Something they don't have to listen and think about.


Pookie Anselmi, steel player wannabe

Wow, I'm glad you guys liked the show. Too bad I missed it.

Typical Dick Clark Prodution, He'd screw up a 1 car parade

Would Assassins of Country Music do?

Country music isn't gone at all. Its still here in Albuquerque. Cuz my band "The Isleta Poorboys" still play it. It just ain't on TV or Radio anymore cuz the Corporations are selling all that crap to the public. Barf Brooks and Shania Twit are not my taste anyway..............

Do what?
The Academy of country music picked these awards, not the fans.
CMA awards are picked by the fans.

I Think It Was Crap The Way They Done Ray Price. These New Tore Close Can't Hold A Lght For Ray. I'm A Old Timer. SONNY.

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Well, who let "good'n'Plenty," I mean, Big and Rich, even be on? Dick Clark lose a bet?Without a doubt the lamest excuse for musical entertaiment since:
(A) KISS first appeared
(B) My Dad brought home a Stella he won in a poker game.

I don't care how they play it, sing it , or dance it. I just wish they would find their own name for it, and not try to present it as "COUNTRY MUSIC"....because it isn't!!!!

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