The Steel Guitar Forum

This is just my take on things, but Doug Sahm had more talent in his feet than Kid Rock has in his whole body.

Bob,
A hippie that can sing!

Ummmmmm,,let me see, are they still calling CMT, country Music Television, seldom watch it anymore, love the traditional country, new and old, not too much new anymore.
I missed Kid Rock with Hank on the awards show,,,,,HUH,,,I missed the awards show,,,
Tony what are you doing , tuned to CMT, trying to catch a shot of Shiniquasky Twain ??? at least she looks like she has regular baths,,
Country is still around,,just have to look a little harder to find it.

I don't know what it is.... but the last time I saw John Hughey play on TV it was on CMT. He was on a re-broadcast of Austin City Limits. He sounded great and it gave me another opportunity to see his flawless right hand technique up close..
CMT was also the last place I saw Mooney playing on TV with Waylon. I enjoyed watching him play.

CMT was the last place I saw Tommy White playing steel on stage..

CMT was the last place I saw Dave Robbins playing steel on stage....(with Jean Shepherd) sp?

Without CMT ? Where are you going to see these guys play without being there in person.

For the wise guys out there (by in person) I wasn't talking about Waylon..


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Tim Harr - Carter D-10 8 & 9 - Troy Cook & the Long Haul Band

My step son is convinced that he is Hank Jr's son. Says he heard it on tv. Please help us put an end to this argument. Is he?

No Deana, Hank III is Hank Jr's son! As far as Kid Rock goes, I really liked the Crossroads show which he did with Hank Jr. I like the raw edgy stuff like Steve Earle, the Cowboy Junkies, and a bunch of others you don't ever hear on the radio. Thank the big guy for Satellite Radio and stuff like that. You don't have to hear the crap on FM radio today. On my cable TV I have digital music and one station is called "Americana" and it's where you hear the people like Robert Earl Keen, Joe Ely, and the like. It's amazing how many of those artists are from Texas. Damn, I wish I had've stayed there when I was playin' full time. I might still be doin' it......JH

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Livin' in the Past and the Future with a 12 string Mooney Universal tuning.

<FONT SIZE=1 COLOR="#8e236b"><p align=CENTER>[This message was edited by Jerry Hayes on 24 January 2003 at 11:07 AM.]</p></FONT>

It says here we can see Kid Rock and Sheryl Crow tonight (Friday Jan 24) on the Jay Leno Tonight Show.

>...and the guitar solo is out of tune ! A >typical rock solo trying to sound >Country...( A poor solo to boot )

To me sometimes country is just too clean cut and in tune

Eric my friend,regardless of whether you play Blues, Rock, Jazz , New Wave or Crispy Clean Country..or whatever.....

The guitar should be in tune..

Don't ya think ?

tp

if I thought that I'd have to throw away all my Neil Young, half my Bob Dylan and never pick up a Les Paul (and Jimi Hendrix and Robert Johnson and any live music ever recorded )
<FONT SIZE=1 COLOR="#8e236b"><p align=CENTER>[This message was edited by Eric Myers on 24 January 2003 at 06:17 PM.]</p></FONT>

Oh what a mixed up world we live in.I remember some people saying,Ernest Tubb , and Roy Acuff couldn't sing and where ugly.The members of their bands made them sound and look good. And to think Lynn Owsley played for E.T. and Kid Rock. Joe<FONT SIZE=1 COLOR="#8e236b"><p align=CENTER>[This message was edited by Joe Miraglia on 24 January 2003 at 04:36 PM.]</p></FONT>

Kid R. appears set to endorse Pennzoil 10W30 as a hairdressing. And we thought it was just for cars!

Just two words: "How?" and "Why?"

I could start a rant about these two words but we all know how that rant will go.

My jaw drops and my head shakes.

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Bill Fulbright
Mullen D-10 8x7; Gibson ES-165; Peavey Vegas 400;
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Hey Eric..Cinnamon Girl was almost in tune ....

I once saw Neil in concert and he started a song then stopped and said "man thats out of tune even for me!"

Kid Rock and Sheryl Crow were good on last night's Leno show but it would have been much better with a steel guitar.

More about Kid Rock from an article in yesterday's Detroit Free Press: click here<FONT SIZE=1 COLOR="#8e236b"><p align=CENTER>[This message was edited by Bill Moore on 26 January 2003 at 06:35 AM.]</p></FONT>

Yo, ma brutha Larry Miller---are you runnin' down Yo Yo Ma? Yo?

I hardly ever post on here, but I read quite often all the arguments about "country music" and how they are trying to market it to a younger crowd. I'm not one to know all the technical stuff about guitar leads and what is good or bad,(I do play, but not all that great) but rather if one likes the song. Most of the buying public doesn't know a c chord from a G, they just either like the song or they don't. Now to my point (if there is one) . I was sitting at a bar the other night and that Kid Rock song come on the juke box. There was this kid sitting around the corner at the bar singing along word for word. That kid would never think of listening to "country" let alone know the words. If we can call this song remotely country, and I think we can, this might be the way to turn some of the 20 somethings on to country and they won't even know what hits them. Do you think they might start liking Ray Price & Merle? I dought it, but it was neat seeing this kid with his hat on backwards sing something that was "close" to sounding like country.

P.S.: I probably didn't make any sense but what the hell. I got to post something

Roger,

I've found that 20-somethings are pretty open to the 'real' country stuff from the 40's, 50's, 60's & 70's. It's the 'hot country' power-ballad stuff they loathe.

Who is buying that music?

-GV

Greg,
It was the power-ballad that made my daughter take notice of Kid Rock.

I remember one time while I was still in California where we got a Sunday afternoon gig in Newport Beach at a place called the Cannery. It was an old Tuna cannery which had been converted to a restaurant/bar. We'd never played for the "High Class" clientle before and didn't really want the gig but it paid damn good so us hillbillies took it. We did a couple of Neil Young songs in our show and a couple of Eagle's things but mostly westcoast country. When we got up to play the first set out Bass player/lead vocalist (Bobby Ray) said "To hell with these clowns, if they don't like what we pick we'll just leave". He said "Key of G boys" and just took off singin' Buck Owen's "Love's Gonna Live Here". To our surprise they loved that stuff. We did a little rock but they seemed to love the honky tonk country stuff better. We got the gig for the whole summer and had a great time. I remember one guy coming up and asking me who did a couple of songs and I told him it was Buck Owens or Haggard or whoever. A week or so later he came back to the gig and said he'd gotten a couple of records and was going to get more. He said he hadn't heard of these people and thought country was mostly people like the New Riders, Commander Cody, etc. All that said, I really like the Sheryl Crow/Kid Rock thing and it IS country. There are a lot of closet hillbillies out there who just need to come out of the closet. A short note on tuning...Do you remember the Hank Jr. classic "Family Tradition"? Just listen to the electric guitar, especially the very last note played. It's really out of tune but makes for some ballsy stuff. In tune is great but sometimes it's too perfect. I sort of like the raw edge myself. Like I've said before, my kid turned one of my tuning keys the other night and wouldn't tell me which one it was!!!!! Later, JH

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Livin' in the Past and the Future with a 12 string Mooney Universal tuning.