The Steel Guitar Forum

Jeff! How can a guy play two steels at the same time? I'm, of course referring to the word Mullen! "a word made famous by many a forumite!" actually, I brought my Mullen to the gig last nite, but only played one!

I stand by my statement Phil sang better walking the stage than most. Porter can't hold a note to Phil, never could! Of course, this is my opinion. Theresa

<SMALL>Of course, this is my opinion.</SMALL>

......and one should not confuse opinion with fact!

Kyles--

(The jokes aren't as funny when I have to keep explaining them to you...)

A gratuitous "s" was added to the name of Mr. Killen in a prior post. Thus, my attempt to call attention to the error with humor, irony, and indirection.
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Jeff
'75 Emmon <font size=1>(Get it?)

<SMALL>A gratuitous "s" was added to the name of Mr. Killen in a prior post</SMALL>

......and I made it! (second mistake made in life)

Jeff Evans

Tom Killen played his Emmons LeGrande on the TV show.

Dave

James,
I don't know if Phil will still be around in 43 years,will you? He did just celebrate his first cd going gold. He has steel on it
As Porter goes, I use to watch his TV show when I was a kid.
Who knows if I'll be around is 43 years.
Theresa

Myron,
I know
Thanks, Theresa

A lot of people have used steel guitar on their records...Manhatton Transfer..Neil Diamond..even Dire Straits...but that don't make them country.

As for ol' Porter, he'll probably outlive us all! As it stands right now his career has been longer than a lot of artist have been alive and certainly a lot longer than most of the artist careers will be today.

Dave

AMEN!!!

Time will tell
Country is subjective
Theresa

Subjective? Naw, only in the minds of those who would prefer it were something else.
Country is country! Period. No matter how bad some people try to change it into something else.
If you don't like it don't listen to it. Instead, listen to the stuff they're trying to change it into and leave country alone.
It is amazing how some people try to change it into something else when there are so many other markets to choose from. Surely there is a radio station with rock, pop, oldies, or whatever they could find without thinking that country has to change into something that is palatible for them.
If you don't like country, go find something else instead of trying to change it into something you do like.
This is so typical of what is going on in country today. Change it into something more closely related to pop or rock and then "bitch" because of the lack of steel guitar or the sound of the steel that has to be used to fit that style of music.
If it ain't broke don't fix it. If you don't like Haggard and Jones don't listen to it! Go somewhere else, just don't try to change it.
In spite of some contrary belief, "change is not good!" As is noticed in today's current market and it's decline.

Dave<FONT SIZE=1 COLOR="#8e236b"><p align=CENTER>[This message was edited by Dave Robbins on 06 March 2002 at 08:46 AM.]</p></FONT>

<SMALL>Country is subjective</SMALL>

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica">quote:</font><HR><SMALL>sub·jec·tive (səb-jĕk'tĭv)
adj.

Proceeding from or taking place in a person's mind rather than the external world: a subjective decision.</SMALL><HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Country music is NOT subjective, it was decided that before any of us were born. Dave is right and Theresa isn't! Calling a Cardinal a Bluejay doesn't transform it into one thus calling other types of music country does not transform it either.

Or, more colloquially:

<i b FONT COLOR=006600 BIG>You can call a hog a duck but it still needs to stay out of the pond.</i> --A. Alford</b /BIG /FONT COLOR><FONT SIZE=1 COLOR="#8e236b"><p align=CENTER>[This message was edited by Jeff Evans on 06 March 2002 at 10:56 AM.]</p></FONT>

Mike.
You just hit the nail on the head!! That covers exactly whats going on in the country music business today!

Leigh

George got a standing ovation because he's a legend. I saw the audience sing along with Phil and Trisha.
This topic has been talked to death. If you don't like what you hear, then lets all whine about the state of Country Music once more. End of Story!
Theresa

Theresa, I don't have a problem with whatever music you want to listen to. There are some good voices in new "country." I don't like this whining but, just don't label it as country, that it is not. Call it was it is.

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The Young Steelkid

Niether Phil nor Trisha had a steel, either!

Dave

At the risk of repeating something I may have said before -
the point is that everyone's idea of "Traditional Country" is a) different b) evolving.

Frank Hutchinson, Carter Family, Sam McGee, Bill Monroe, Bob Wills, Flatt & Scruggs, Hank Williams, Ernest Tubb, Johnny Cash, Buck Owens, Waylon... All these people at one time were the "cutting edge" of "New Country". And most of them were criticised by "traditionalists" as "not real country".
(Wasn't it Ernest Tubb who had to fight to be allowed to use drums on the Opry? I'm sure it was Sam McGee who was told never to come back with his electric guitar...)

Personal disclaimer: I'm not crazy about a lot of the new stuff I hear either. I like Dwight Yoakam, Lee Roy Parnell, Marty Stuart, Vince Gill... but I guess they don't count as "new" or "young" any more
MY kind of country is Waylon, Bobby Bare (what's he doing these days?), Willie, Cash, Jerry Reed, Don Williams, Emmylou ... that's NOT because I think they are the only "real" or "traditional" country... It's because I'm 53 years old! Doesn't mean I don't like some music that's a lot older, and some that's a lot newer...

Listen to what you like, ignore what you don't (kind of like "live and let live"... or even "do unto others...")
Nick<FONT SIZE=1 COLOR="#8e236b"><p align=CENTER>[This message was edited by nick allen on 07 March 2002 at 05:05 AM.]</p></FONT>

Thanks Nick,
I'm not the one whining about what to call it.
Even on the Opry now they try to define every artist being announced. Our radio stations here are doing the same. It's not a problem for me, cause I listen PERIOD!
You'll hear steel on both Trisha & Phil's records Theresa

Hey! Someone likes LeRoy! thats one in a row!