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I saw a few pieces of it during the commercials on Star Trek Voyager. I caught the Song Of The Year and only recognized one song (which sucked and lost anyway). I caught AJ and enjoyed the fact that there was a steel solo in his song (but why the crappy fuzztone?).

I didn't tape it.

Voyager was good last night. Neelix's final episode. Cool.

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I found the awards show fascinating. Just when I thought it couldn't get any worse....IT DID! <FONT SIZE=1 COLOR="#8e236b"><p align=CENTER>[This message was edited by Larry Clark on 10 May 2001 at 10:43 AM.]</p></FONT>

Definition of a live country music performance (it's the same as other modern music):

SNAP YOUR NECK TO THE RHYTHM OF SOMEONE BEATING THE WHOLLY HOLY HELL OUT OF A DRUM.<FONT SIZE=1 COLOR="#8e236b"><p align=CENTER>[This message was edited by Rick Collins on 10 May 2001 at 11:01 AM.]</p></FONT>

Well , I'm with you guys on this "again". Guess I keep watching in hopes of seeing more steel guitar. We did "see more" this year , but not steel
By the way - - - sure thought that was David Wright playing with Dwight Yokham (from a distance) <FONT SIZE=1 COLOR="#8e236b"><p align=CENTER>[This message was edited by Skip T on 10 May 2001 at 11:06 AM.]</p></FONT>

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica">quote:</font><HR><SMALL>I think soap operas are stupid, so I don't watch them. I think anyone who watches Survivor must have had a lobotomy... so I don't watch it just so I'll have something to groan about...
I don't like liver, so I don't eat it....</SMALL><HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

John, there is a difference. You couldn't say "I don't like air, so I won't breathe it". Since steel guitar is fundamental to our lives, the state of country music is extremely critical. I think that alot of the strong feelings toward the award show is due to a general anger at how perverted so much country music has become. So what am I to do, not play steel guitar? I can assure you that if we didn't play steel, many of us would not take this sorry state so to heart.

Too answer the $64,000 question John, I have an excuse, I was being polite. We had visitors, one of whom was Wayne "Buzz Saw' Wood, a great steel player who was very active in the central Texas area during the fifties. His wife wanted to watch the show while Wayne gave my wife her second ever guitar lesson. Being the perfect English gentleman i couldn't just say "not in my house you don't"...or could I

That's my excuse and I'm sticking to it. Never woud have been watching it otherwise, I knew what to expect.

I watch the young, so called "country" performers because, at my age, they are fun to watch. They remind me of when I too was young and stupid.

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Bobby Brocius, ZumSteel D-10, 8x8, Blue, BL910 PUs

The "Honesty" of country music seems to be dimishing. There is some talent but it seems to be misdirected into commercialism. It's probably because many of the artist's managers are saying "We gotta crossover into the pop music world".... A lot of country artists are going for the quick big bucks and losing sight of the fact that real country fans are true and will never leave an artist.... unless (of course) the artist leaves them first. It's a big gamble on the artists part and the rest of us have to suffer listening to this junk. Many of the new country artists look like models. Sex appeal is what must be selling now-a-days.

Skip T: That was Gary Morse backing up Dwight. Neat stuff, eh? Regards, Paul<FONT SIZE=1 COLOR="#8e236b"><p align=CENTER>[This message was edited by Paul Graupp on 10 May 2001 at 11:49 AM.]</p></FONT>

Instead of watching the show, I was at rehersal. If I was home, I would have gone into my studio and played along with my C/D tracks. I will not waste my time watching or supporting these type of show anymore.
Why do you think they call it the "Boob Tube"
JE:-)>

b0b,just keep watching Star Treck.I hear next year they will film "COUNTRY MUSIC,FINAL EPISODE.


Steve England,you smooth devil you.
Ray

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Steeling is still legal in Arizona

Paul - - thanks for the info (Gary Morse)with Dwight. I quickly could see he wasn't playing a black (Harley) Sierra , so knew it couldn't be David. Guess they just have the same barber - -

I didn't watch the Awards. I'm tired of Goodbye Earl and the Three Little Pigs, oops The Dixie Chicks. Never could keep my barnyard animals straight.

It was very evident to me that the synthezier
is way too loud. Drowning out the other instruments. Those leather pants looked like
heavy metal garb! What a DISAPPOINTMENT, the only thing close was Alan Jackson number.<FONT SIZE=1 COLOR="#8e236b"><p align=CENTER>[This message was edited by Richard Gonzales on 10 May 2001 at 01:53 PM.]</p></FONT>

I'm With You Guys. This Junk Is Not Country.I'm 66 Years Old I Have Played And Soung Country Music For Years. I Think I Know What Country Is. But We Are Not Hearing It Today.It's A Shame. ZUMSTEEL AND SHO_BUD. SONNY.

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SONNYPRIDDY

Just when I thought Trash Tv had hit rock bottom with Jerry Springer, This awards show comes along goes below that.
"Country"? Music Awards shows are about 2 notches below Jerry Springer and his collection of Weirdo's.

Todays Country Music has a lot of class, All of it Ranging from Low to Lowest.

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JCF (The Picker formerly known as Sleepy John)


<FONT SIZE=1 COLOR="#8e236b"><p align=CENTER>[This message was edited by John Floyd on 10 May 2001 at 01:26 PM.]</p></FONT>

Well, everything has been pretty much summed up. I have one question, "Where are all the people that usually defend all this so-called country music?" Nobody's defending the ACM awards show and that is supposed to be the best of the best. But, I guess it's hard to defend the total bastardization of country music.
By the way, here is the telephone # to the ACM
323-462-2351
323-462-3253 fax

One more question "The Judds for vocal duo of the year????"

Kevin

I'm with you Kevin,I think they are running scared today.
Ray

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Steeling is still legal in Arizona

<SMALL>I have one question, "Where are all the people that usually defend all this so-called country music?" Nobody's defending the ACM awards show and that is supposed to be the best of the best.</SMALL>

Not sure where Theresa is at the moment. Is she the only one besides myself who get the honor of being dubbed "the great defenders of modern country music"?

Anyway, I didn't see the ACM awards show. I rarely watch any awards shows. I'll make an exception if The Wilkinsons are there, but that's about it.

As far as LeAnn Rimes and Jo Dee Messina and Rascall Flatts, I've never cared that much for their music overall. A few good songs now and then, but they're not my favorites.

So, you won't catch me defending awards shows much at all. Like videos, they're primarily aimed at the visual presentation of the "entertainment", where I tend to like the hearing side of music much more. If it were up to me, all videos would be simple presenetations of the group performing at a concert.

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The Unofficial Photographer of The Wilkinsons

Man, this theads growin' like weeds around the outhouse! I'm sorry I missed the show, but I get the general idea it wasn't much different than last year's, or the year before. I guess we just have to resign the fact that this is the territory of young 'uns and country rockers.

I lost faith in the country award shows back when Alabama started winning 4 or 5 awards every year!

Last time I saw Rascall Flats they did some very good covers of Boston and other '80s rock groups. They didn't have enough country music to do their entire show. About half way through the evening the crowd started leaving... they were, after all, playing at a country night club.

jdg

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MSA D-10
'63 Gibson Hummingbird
16/15c Hammered Dulcimer

Missed the whole thing. But...gotta agree with b0b, Voyager was good. It was sad to see Neelix stay in the Delta Quadrant, but still no clues to the final episode.

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Bob Shilling, Berkeley, CA--MSA S10

Well, going to the web site I do notice a couple of bright spots -

Paul Franklin was named Steel Guitar Player of the year (Jay Dee and Bill Johnson were the others nominated)

Billy Bob's in Ft. Worth is Club of the Year (our own Montana's was in the running - yeah team!)

jdg

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MSA D-10
'63 Gibson Hummingbird
16/15c Hammered Dulcimer

I never gave any thought to watching the awards. Instead I spent my time watching San Antonio beat the daylights out of Dallas. Now that's entertainment.

I just showed up here today because it's a Steel Guitar Forum tradition to sit around and gripe about the awards shows. And every once in a while somebody says something funny, and somebody gets mad, and there's a fight, and... It's the same old song, every year, only worse.

Here's my 19 year old, new to country, new to steel thoughts:

I thought the awards had it's ups and downs. I'm a big fan of Brooks & Dunn, Montgomery Gentry, Alan Jackson, and Toby Keith(would've gone to see B&D, but Ticketmaster was retarded about the Chicago show so I got tickets for Strait instead). I'm glad they kept the steel instead of like Keith Urban's unplugged But for the Grace of God(I'm learning that version on guitar at the moment). Rimes, along with SheDaisy could've been Toby Keith's pole dancers and would've had more appeal than their singing, and Billy Gilman is NOT country,but all in all, I enjoyed watching the awards for the first time(only started listening to country when I came to ISU last year).
I like both "old school" and "modern" country. As with the same way I got interested in Metallica(heard one of their new albums(Load) first, then got into the older stuff), I began to like traditional country. However, I tend to prefer the steel tone of modern country songs. And speaking of steel tone, I wonder which Megadeth song Franklin(or whoever did steel for them) did steel in.
As far as style goes, it seems as though a lot of modern country is twanged-up, mellowed '80 hair metal. I've played several modern country songs with my cranked up Bassman and full out distortion and nobody knew I was playing Dixie Chicks.
I haven't had much experience with steel yet other than a beer bottle(or my Shubb SP-2) on my Takamine or Tele tuned to open G, but now I wish I made a doubleneck steel for open G and C6, lol.

Ok, that's enough aimless ranting from me. I'm out.

P.S. did anyone notice that Troy Gentry was playing with a broken string?

P.P.S: if you're ever in Central Iowa, check out Kelly Pardekooper and the Devil's House band or the Kelly Pardekooper/Dustin Busch duo gigs. Great pedal(Emmons through Nashville 400) and lap steel(National or Airline through Vibrolux) respectively