E9 vs C6 for jazz?

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Tony Prior
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Regarding different tuning's such as E9th vs C6th, one of them may require more energy than the other to play similar ,if not the same passages. IF we are holding a K Lever to facilitate the same passages that can be accomplished on that OTHER neck without a PED or lever, maybe we are exerting extra energy.

While I hardly consider myself proficient at either E9th or C6th , I find that each can lead to increased awareness for the other. No different than the 6 string or the Dobro. None of them have the same tuning or voicing's but yet we play them, don't we ?

Over the past several months I have spent a good deal of time on the lower ten, the bulb is growing brighter, sure the voicing's are different but some things just lay much better with minimal energy. After studying the phrasings and positions of a few songs, the tuning opens up wide, really wide. " wow , thats the same as xxx, I know this ".

Last week, this is true, I sat in at a local jam with some pretty darn good players, I looked at the set list and almost packed up and left, standards and classics . Yipes thats not me. BUT then my sense of fear diminished, I looked at a few of the charts and said , I can do this. First song up, "THATS ALL". I laid back during the first half then said what the heck, they pointed to me to play the head, and I did. C6th. It was all right there in front of me. If I recall it was all 5 and 6 Ped and maybe 1 lever and a couple of different stock open grips on the fret board . I thought I just barely got thru it but the guys in the band thought it was great ! What do they know.
I read somewhere that Doug J stated, learn maybe a dozen chords in a few positions and you can probably get by and play it all. He wasn't wrong !

I equate studying the lower ten the same as studying fat chords and standards on the 6 string. Some chords/phrasings on the 6 string come easier in different fret board positions.

It's not wrong to play whatever we play on either neck, but it may be MORE right to do it on the other neck ! :lol:
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C6

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C6 with at least 4KLs on it, hands down, for jazz. All the other options mentioned are a compromise. If 'almost' is good enough for you, spend no $$ and wring out whats available on the E9 per the advice.

If a lefty D10 comes up you wont need to worry about getting scooped! Good luck
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Post by Chance Wilson »

I really want to love Uni. I bought one, but I’m stuck on D10 because of the different string gauges and the different pickups-I have 5kohm different windings between the two. I suppose I could make a split PU for the Uni and experiment with string gauges to get more of the D10 vibe. I like the D10 pedals because it’s nice having a different guitar for 1-4-5 tunes and circle of fifthsy ones. I think Mooney, Brumley, Rugg etc or I think Chalker,Day,Byrd,Jim Murphy etc. I understand the redundancies, and I have a lot with the F#-G#/D#-E change and such but for now, I’m still willing to lug the Double. I made a double neck standard guitar/banjo for the same reasons. I could have made a 7 string single with a chord changing bridge, the banjo fifth string on the bottom, a mute and pickup switching but the double helps me change mindset as well. In working relationships it helps other soloists know where I’m headed visually too.
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