Telonics Pedal WOW!

[Bill Ferguson]

Why do these posts always have to hijacked. He was just stating how proud he was of his new Telonics pedal.
I don't believe that the post was started for opinions as to whether he could afford this pedal or whether the pedal was better or worse than any other.

I think all the new design pedals are great. Even just the plain old Goodrich Pot Pedal.

It's all a matter of preference.

[chris ivey]

when you post anything on a public forum, you are asking for response from many thousands of people. it would be a short lived forum if each thread had only the original poster's statement.
just the nature of the beast.

[Niels Andrews]

No problem, I am well aware of Chris and his viewpoint. He has over 9,000 post and never misses an opportunity to express his viewpoint. I find him entertaining and every once in a while his comments are pertinent. Room for all whenever I post.

[Ken Metcalf]

I like Teleonics pedals and speakers not a problem with me.
Congratumacation

[Eric Philippsen]

I use either a Telonics or a beat up old Goodrich 120 for gigging. If its a bar gig then I usually opt on the side of laziness and ease-of-setup by using the Goodrich. Heck, I just throw it down there on the floor under the steel, nudge it into position with my foot, do the cord thing and I'm good to go for that.

For bigger or more "serious" gigs or studio stuff I opt for the Telonics. To me, there is an audible difference with it, for the better.

As for Chris Ivey, I've always enjoyed his contributions to the forum, no matter what category or subject. Naw, I don't always agree with him, but I can tell he's been around the block a time or two and his straightforward opinions are a welcome respite from the sometimes tiring "let's all be nice and not rock the boat" postings of others.

[George Redmon]

when you post anything on a public forum, you are asking for response from many thousands of people. it would be a short lived forum if each thread had only the original poster's statement.
just the nature of the beast.

Of Course, Well Said!

[Steve Lipsey]

I have both a Telonics and a Hilton...the Hilton broke twice within a couple of years, neither of which was my fault....the Telonics is "overbuilt" as has been mentioned, but what that means is that it simply won't break, ever...I'm good with that.

Telonics is a "real" company with other lines of business, and due to this they have more extensive production facilities, and can produce a pedal with seriously high-end production techniques...Keith does a great job wiring them up by himself, but it just is a different animal. Both do what they promise, and both are wonderful pedals...and you do get what you pay for, with both of them.

I like the old Hilton taper - the one from the pedal with the attached power supply. Although Keith says there is no difference, the newer one is mechanically different in some subtle ways and I believe that gives the taper a bit of a dogleg that is smoother in the old pedal. (It is very, very close to the Goodrich taper, I'd bet Keith looked at that when building the Hilton....)

But I wouldn't use a pedal that had a hardwired power supply - too easy to break, and a spare power supply (which I do carry) doesn't help there...

So, best of all worlds....overbuilt Telonics pedal with old Hilton taper....I don't mind spending more now...when I quit playing and sell it all off, I'll get a lot of my investment back...so it isn't as "expensive" as it seems...

[George Redmon]

the Telonics is "overbuilt" as has been mentioned, but what that means is that it simply won't break, ever...I'm good with that.

"Overbuilt"? Steve, I admire your optimism, if it were only true. Ah...the better mouse trap....Bless your heart.

[Steve Lipsey]

George....well, yeah, "won't break ever" is probably a tad optimistic...but I suspect that it is built better than I am, at this point, and that is all that matters...

[Daryl Thisdelle]

The nice part about steel guitars and there accessories you can buy what the person thinks is a better pedal or accessory more expensive or not. Some people think using a can with a string is the way to go. Others think only the very best will do. What is best to me is different for another.It's what ever floats your boat is the most important thing here and be happy with what you have and if you are not, change it and not raining on some ones parade just's show class...

Daryl

[Daryl Thisdelle]

Well my Telonics pedal came the other day. I was using the Goodrich and Hilton pedals so my pedals were some of the most popular being used in pedal steel today. Yes the Telonics pedal is different and it is that difference that some do not like. Some say it has no tone, for me it has plenty of tone but not like the Goodrich or the Hilton. What I found with in 5 minutes of playing on it, it had got rid of the unwanted harmonics and over tones the other pedals had which only degraded the sound. It is what we all got used to over time and for many the only way to pedal the steel. I can respect that. What I heard was the real true sound reproduction of my pedal steel going through the Lace Alumitones. I will say again real true sound reproduction of my Williams going through my Lace Alumitone. With out all the unwanted over tones and harmonics from the pot pedal. This pedal is not for some and if you are a real purest of sound and not wanting all the other stuff in sound that comes with pot pedals that we all come to think is the only true way to pedal a guitar give the Telonics a try, yup it is different, at first so was the Beatles which we all came to love. She loves you ya ya ya ...Smiles

[Mike Wheeler]

While not wanting to start anything, I have to say that a pot pedal can't add any overtones, or harmonics to a guitar's signal. It can interfere with them. It can roll the high frequencies off a little bit. It can add unwanted noises to the signal. But it cannot add overtones or harmonics.

While I'm sure the Telonics and Hilton pedals are wonderful, and perform quite well, the old pot pedal is still a solid and reliable choice...as long as the pot is in good shape, that is.

[Daryl Thisdelle]

No ones said the pot pedal added harmonics or over tones...It seems to in hence them.. plus add the unwanted sound I hate to hear.I have to be very careful how I explain it as sometimes I do not explain things well. I might not have explained my self very well , my apologies..With pot pedals for me and this is my ears I just hear a pile of uncontrolled sound. Some of it not needed as it degrades the sound. You are not starting something just have an opinion just like mine and is much appreciated. I feel the Telonics controls the unwanted sound I hate to hear in the signal chain and some people call that losing tone, it is all what you are after and what you like and want to or not want to hear. Pot pedals were good until I bought the Telonics then I realised and did not like the pot pedals and have disliked the sound I was getting from them for quite a while but just could not put my finger on it.

Daryl

[Mike Wheeler]

Daryl, email sent.

[Daryl Thisdelle]

E-Mail replied

[Daryl Thisdelle]

It has been pointed out to me that my interpretation on what is going on and what I am hearing is flawed and I do apologise if that is the case. But for sure what I can say is the Telonics pedal sounds way better on my system than the others and that is what will stay and the others are going. One has been sold all ready. I did not mean to mislead anyone. My interpretation was wrong but what I am hearing is real.

Daryl