The Steel Guitar Forum

First of all amazeing band and version to that classic song...now, was that Milo Deering on telecaster?? if not Milo Deering's got a double. Guess you all know Milo?? ace Steel..ace lead..ace fiddle etc etc

Micky "scars" Byrne U.K.

Great version of a classic! The doppelgänger is G.E. Smith on the telecaster. He does look like Milo though. He has a Gibson amp in the music vid.

Buell Wisner wrote:...Anybody know for sure whether this is a Bassman or not? It's not a Blues Deville, is it?...

Not sure what amp he is pretending to play thru in this music video. Looks like a Deville, but could be a vintage Bassman or maybe a '57 Bandmaster? The badge is small so Im leaning toward a Deville.

Very much so Clete.....I wonder if he knows

Micky "scars" Byrne U.K.

Clete Ritta wrote:Great version of a classic! The doppelgänger is G.E. Smith on the telecaster. He does look like Milo though. He has a Gibson amp in the music vid.

Buell Wisner wrote:...Anybody know for sure whether this is a Bassman or not? It's not a Blues Deville, is it?...

Not sure what amp he is pretending to play thru in this music video. Looks like a Deville, but could be a vintage Bassman or maybe a '57 Bandmaster? The badge is small so Im leaning toward a Deville.

Yeah, it's a "music video"--appears to be mimed or played somewhat in sync; however, I think the gear is more or less legit, as in their stuff. The recording could easily be an edited soundboard or something.

Sless plays what appears to be a tweed 4X10 in a lot of actual live shows on youtube, particularly with the David Nelson Band. I'm guessing it's a backline amp, and probably either a Bassman RI or a Deville.

Apparently, G.E. Smith played a lot of the Moon Alice shows with a Deville.

Played with a band that opened for Moon Alice a couple of times. they were using Devilles on those gigs. Barry had a lot of stuff on a pedal board for the PSG and 6 string. I asked about his copedent, and he said that it was just standard extended E9..... but there were 7 pedals and 6 levers on the guitar, so his idea of "standard" may be different than mine.

The Gibson that G E is "using" in the video is a GA-6.... I'm pretty sure that it was used for the recorded track that we are hearing. The GA-6 comes in several flavors, but my favorites, are the dark brown tolex or blonde tolex versions, 1958 through 1961 or so. Great guitar amps that can be had at reasonable prices, if you are patient.

The question about double duty amps really depends on the gig. I can get by comfortably on a country gig playing clean Telecaster and PSG with one loud clean amp. For blues/rock type gigs, I almost always take two amps.... cause that is the only way to get what I really want.... which is a cranked 12 to 20 watt amp for guitar and a clean 80 to 100 watt amp for PSG. I have a reissue Vibroverb, which almost does the job. I have played a MIlkman Sideman, and liked it as well. It is in the same ballpark as the Vibroverb, but the tone section is much easier to dial in for PSG. Both of these amps are going to get pretty loud before giving up the beautiful amp distortion though....

Milkman Sideman was built for this purpose and sounds amazing.

Tried a Cube XL80 and various Peaveys/Webb.. which are ok but I never got the guitar tone I liked

Twin or Music Man is OK but heavy.

After 40 years the Sideman solved this for me.

You are probably still gonna need good quality effects on both sides though.

I had a ampbuilder in norway make me a customamp. Its called double duty.
Its based on a deluxe reverb. But channel one is a more or less standard deluxe reverb with 22watt.
When you switch on channel two. Two extra output tubes is turned on, that gives channel two 44 watt output Power. Its also voiced a little differently than channel one.

I had one made,too, Tore
All tube 2x6l6 power
One channel is a clean Twin pre, the other a clone of a 70's Dumble pre
Effects loop works on both channels.
Vibroverb cab, 15" Eminence steel speaker.
Perfect!

http://bb.steelguitarforum.com/viewtopi ... tar+singer

mike nolan wrote:Played with a band that opened for Moon Alice a couple of times. they were using Devilles on those gigs. Barry had a lot of stuff on a pedal board for the PSG and 6 string. I asked about his copedent, and he said that it was just standard extended E9..... but there were 7 pedals and 6 levers on the guitar, so his idea of "standard" may be different than mine.

The Gibson that G E is "using" in the video is a GA-6.... I'm pretty sure that it was used for the recorded track that we are hearing. The GA-6 comes in several flavors, but my favorites, are the dark brown tolex or blonde tolex versions, 1958 through 1961 or so. Great guitar amps that can be had at reasonable prices, if you are patient.

The question about double duty amps really depends on the gig. I can get by comfortably on a country gig playing clean Telecaster and PSG with one loud clean amp. For blues/rock type gigs, I almost always take two amps.... cause that is the only way to get what I really want.... which is a cranked 12 to 20 watt amp for guitar and a clean 80 to 100 watt amp for PSG. I have a reissue Vibroverb, which almost does the job. I have played a MIlkman Sideman, and liked it as well. It is in the same ballpark as the Vibroverb, but the tone section is much easier to dial in for PSG. Both of these amps are going to get pretty loud before giving up the beautiful amp distortion though....

Thanks, Mike. That's exactly the information I was looking for.

Glad to be of service.

mike nolan wrote:Glad to be of service.

I'm doing my best to keep all of my questions about Barry's set-up to myself.

FWIW...when a player is looking for large latitudes in tones and functionality, I think Mesa's are a good platform to have an amp guru tweak to your needs.

Tor Arve Baroy wrote:I had a ampbuilder in norway make me a customamp. Its called double duty.
Its based on a deluxe reverb. But channel one is a more or less standard deluxe reverb with 22watt.
When you switch on channel two. Two extra output tubes is turned on, that gives channel two 44 watt output Power.

man, that is pretty hip!
got any clips?

My wild guess, a 60 Watt 4x10 Blues Deville (Devilles are 60 watts) Very good for Steel , good headroom and excellent for guitars. I do not think you will like the Bassman 4x10, very dark sounding . The alternative is a 60 watt HR Deville.

I am back to using a 60 watt 2x12 H R Deville for double duty .

Obviously you can't go by the video as it is a a TRACKED vid...we have no way of knowing what amps were used while tracking...

Buell Wisner wrote: Anybody get good results from putting a solid state rectifier and a bigger output transformer in a Deluxe Reverb? I suppose that's a thought as well.

Probably bringing two amps would be simpler.

I am building a Marshall 50W plexi clone with SS rectifier as a quasi-bassman amp. I looked at the Bassman 5F6 as a project, but I already have a Tweed amp & an orphaned Fender Supersonic w/Bassman voicing in the clean. The schematic on the Bassman & Marshall Plexi are almost identical. I've not owned a blackface, but got rid of my silver face amps cause they were just too loud when they sounded good.

I find myself using my Mesa 5/50 with lap steel A/B +guitar a lot. The cleans are great & when you need it the drive channel is good if you're willing to use the EFX loop. The class A setting is really nice if I ever have to play acoustic through it.