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Posted: 11 Aug 2013 8:58 am
by Robert Mayo
Robert Mayo wrote:Robert Mayo wrote:Chris, It was taken directly from the manufacturers website as well as other sites that sell the same guitar. I guess the manufacturers are wrong and you as allknowing as you claim to be are right.pfttttt...But to clarify it is NOT a 52 reissue as you so eloquently stated BUT a 57 marketed hotrod reissue guitar from FENDER...shows what you know ...
http://www.sweetwater.com/store/detail/StratVH572SB
The reason it is called a "hotrod" Stratocaster is The FENDER® Vintage Hot Rod '57 Strat® bridges the gap between Fender's Custom Shop and production models. Loaded with the most requested custom features built into Custom Shop models, the Vintage Hot Rod '57 is equipped with Parallel SCN (Neck), SCN (Mid), and DiMarzio Tone Zone (Bridge) pickups, a softer "V"-shaped neck, and an American Vintage Synchronized tremolo. This is a vintage hot-rodded Strat for the 21st century! I DID NOT refer to it as a "reissue" as I think "Hotrod Stratocaster " portrays more of what it is .. a modified reissue guitar.
you are entitled to your opinion as incorrect and misinformed as you are, but you know what they say about opinions......everybody's got one...oh yea I have never heard of you in the dealer circles unless you use another name to buy,broker and sell by...
Posted: 11 Aug 2013 10:10 am
by Lane Gray
Not to pile on, because your paying 60% seems fair, but if something lists at 17, brick and mortar stores would sell it at Around 12 (30% off: standard practice at every store I've ever bought from, in Virginia, Maryland, Missouri or Kansas). If it's still new (Greg's the original dealer), that seems two bills high.
If it's been owned, I don't know enough about niche market Strats, but it'd FLOOR me if a two year old reissue would have appreciated.
Regardless of features, the list tells me all I need.
Posted: 11 Aug 2013 10:52 am
by Robert Mayo
Yep Lane that seems correct, BUT we are selling this one (why it's even mentioned by another poster is beyond me) for way under what other stores,brick n mortar or web stores are asking as far as MSRP so it seems in line. This is a new old stock guitar by the way and many variables go into the pricing structure of any guitar, from what we feel the market will bear, to waiting for the market to "catch up" to a particular models pricing and to what we may feel the guitar is worth in comparison to what is being offered in a makers present lineup .
Posted: 12 Aug 2013 8:08 am
by Chris Lucker
I have no clue what you are talking about.
I was referring to the guitar on your site that you call a 52 Stratocaster reissue.
Focus.
But thank you for clarifying that your "expertise" regarding vintage guitars comes from copying stuff from other websites. But you are being too modest. I bet you subscribe to Vintage Guitar Magazine too.
Posted: 12 Aug 2013 8:30 pm
by Robert Mayo
Chris Lucker wrote:Robert, I did not really have a problem with your approach until you stated that you would do appraisals for $50. I am a vintage guitar collector, broker and I have little confidence in your pricing. I imagine your appraisals are just as weak.
Please humor all of us on the forum how you arrived at your evaluation of a 1952 Stratocaster reissue? That is what you call a 2011 Hot Rod Strat on your site. What the heck is that anyway? I think you are mistaken. Is this the kind of sloppy work we could expect from your $50 appraisals? Would they be more accurate if you charged $100?
I think it is fine you are on the forum. It is b0b's forum and his decision. That is right and not up to forum members or participants. But I think it is silly that anyone would pay you $50 for an appraisal. You are not a market maker, a market influencer or even very accurate in your own sales descriptions.
You mean the guitar I listed as the Hotrod Stratocaster you remarked on here ?
Posted: 12 Aug 2013 10:18 pm
by Chris Lucker
Mayo
Stop playing dumb.
How many stratocasters did you have listed as "52 reissues?"
Did you have more than one? You are not being honest.
I will tell you what-- i will point out the errors you make about your so-called area of expertise--vintage guitars--if for each correction you pay me the $50 you charge for what you call professional services. No fair--you have already fixed some sloppy descriptions.
Posted: 12 Aug 2013 10:25 pm
by Chris Lucker
Mayo
Let's make this simple.
Let's just post it here, and you put it on your website, that if someone has a vintage guitar they would like to sell, I will pay more than you will pay if I am interested in the instrument. They is pretty straightforward.
Posted: 13 Aug 2013 7:59 am
by Robert Mayo
Well Mr. Lucker
I do exactly that everyday (buy,sell and consign guitars and gear)as I am sure you do as well.What you want to pay for anything is your business not mine,and what I decide to pay or sell for is certainly not any of your business, the only reason I felt compelled to respond to you was after your insulting me and what I do in your original post.As far as playing dumb, either your looking at someone else's website and guitar listings or you need to slow down when you read as I have not now and do not have a 1952 reissue Stratocaster on my website for sale. I have had on several occasions a Fender 1952 reissue Telecaster. But that is a total different guitar and not what you have been busting my chops about ( that would be the Fender 57 HOTROD Stratocaster that you claim does not exist).As far as "making it simple" I can make it real simple.... Make your own posts and stop trolling other peoples posts.
Posted: 13 Aug 2013 8:56 am
by b0b
Take it to email, guys.