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Posted: 16 Apr 2013 2:03 pm
by Mike Schwartzman
Chris sez:
the shock factor comparison to how many electric guitars are out there should be very telling about what a very small niche steels have in this world society.
Absolutely...If we took the highest estimate of the total number of PSG's that we could possibly come up with here... would that number approach even 1% of the 6 string electric (Spanish) guitars produced?
Maybe toss in the numbers for any electric lapsteels and console steels too. Would we hit 1%?
I'm thinking if a 1%er patch for us steelers like they have in the world of motorcycle riders, but I don't know if the numbers will add up to enough
Posted: 8 Jul 2013 3:07 am
by Alan Berdoulay
Resurrecting.....
How many pedal guitars did Fender produce?
MSA?
Is it assumed Sho Bud is the largest single producer with 18,000?
How many steel?
Posted: 8 Jul 2013 9:09 am
by Craig Baker
I wonder how many steel guitars Blanton built.
The first time I saw Bobbe Seymour playing in Trenton, NJ in the late 60s, he was playing a push-pull Capri. Does everybody know the Capri story? Does
anybody know the Capri story?
Best regards,
Craig Baker 706-485-8792
cmbakerelectronics@gmail.com
C.M. Baker Electronics
P.O. Box 3965
Eatonton, GA 31024
Posted: 8 Jul 2013 9:31 am
by Tony Prior
don't forget to add 1 at my house...
Posted: 8 Jul 2013 10:09 am
by Scott Duckworth
One Red GFI Student 3 x 3 accounted for here...
Posted: 8 Jul 2013 3:28 pm
by Alan Brookes
I'm sure there are a lot more steel guitars out there than there are players. Ignoring those who bought one and gave up, but hung onto it in the hope that someday they would get back to it and this time be successful, (which must run to thousands), those who do play usually have multiple instruments. I know I do.
Posted: 8 Jul 2013 3:47 pm
by Donny Hinson
Alan Berdoulay wrote:Resurrecting.....
How many pedal guitars did Fender produce?
MSA?
Is it assumed Sho Bud is the largest single producer with 18,000?
Fender made well over 5,000 cable guitars, plus another 4400 rodded guitars (built by Sho~Bud); so there's no way you could leave them out. MSA (who, for a period of time, made well over 200 per month) made more than 10,000. The Sho~Bud figure may be accurate, but I don't know if that includes the 4,400 they made for the Fender. Harlin also made a couple of thousand.
Thirty years ago, people would think nothing of trashing or stripping old pedal guitars, but now they're more reluctant to do so.
Posted: 8 Jul 2013 5:35 pm
by Daniel McKee
This is a really interesting topic.Is that Shobud number just pro models or counting mavericks as well because i assume there were a lot of mavericks produced over a period of several years.
Posted: 9 Jul 2013 2:50 pm
by Donny Hinson
For the life of me, I can't think of any reason they'd leave out the Mavericks? They were pedal steels, too...right?
Posted: 15 Jul 2013 4:49 am
by Ben Banville
Bent just finished building #007 for a repeat customer...it's name is "Bond"...not sure if it comes with an ejection seat, but the aluminum sure shines good :<)
steel guitars
Posted: 16 Jul 2013 11:11 am
by Marian Jerrell
Hi all,
I am blessed to have 2 of them
1. an old Vega lap style 6 string Hawaiian
2. A D-10 Derby Pedal Steel
Blessings Marian Jerrell
Posted: 17 Jul 2013 9:59 am
by Eric Philippsen
Jeff Newman once told a class I was in that a steel manufacturer was doing pretty well if they turned out 20 a year. He said that after Sho-Bud, MSA and a few others had gone out of business.
So, based on that I figure there have been 4,312 steel guitars made.
Well, maybe a few more.
Bmi
Posted: 13 Mar 2014 2:25 pm
by Jay Riddle
I had the pleasure of playing a friends U12 BMI and it was the first time I was introduced to the world of steel guitar.
My heroes on steel were the session players on Highway 101's albums. Country steel and lap steel at its finest!!
Posted: 13 Mar 2014 3:08 pm
by Marty Broussard
Anyone know how many Carvin made? Did Rickenbacker make any pedal steels?
Posted: 13 Mar 2014 3:38 pm
by Donny Hinson
Yes, Carvin made pedal steels, maybe fifty to a hundred, but you couldn't hardly call them a popular brand, or a significant manufacturer. The same goes for Rickenbacker, who made a couple of different models, maybe a hundred or two, total?
Most manufacturers are very tight-lipped about actual numbers, and don't make a lot of money...probably because there are definite tax advantages to claiming you made and sold less than you actually did.
Posted: 13 Mar 2014 4:38 pm
by Marty Broussard
Hear you Donny. I asked about those names because I saw one Carvin when I was 11 and only a pic of a Rickenbacker.
Posted: 13 Mar 2014 4:46 pm
by Johnny Baldwin
Better not leave out Doug E's Zum Stage One & Encore.
How many steel players ?
Posted: 14 Mar 2014 3:54 am
by Bud Harger
There have been threads here in years past that there are only about 50,000 pedal steel players on the planet ! Most own one. Some two...only a handful of collectors own dozens.
Maybe there are a few more players now, but 100,000 PSG's seems pretty close.
bUd
Posted: 14 Mar 2014 5:29 am
by Greg Spence
I'm not sure, but...
there's thirteen hundred and fifty two
Guitar pickers in Nashville
And they can pick more notes than the number of ants
On a Tennessee anthill
Yeah, there's thirteen hundred and fifty two
Guitar cases in Nashville
And anyone that unpacks his guitar can play
Twice as better than I will
Capri
Posted: 14 Mar 2014 5:37 am
by Dustin Rigsby
Craig, do you know the Capri story ? Never heard of it before? Now I'm curious !
Posted: 14 Mar 2014 7:34 am
by Jack Hanson
Greg Spence wrote:I'm not sure, but...
there's thirteen hundred and fifty two
Guitar pickers in Nashville
And they can pick more notes than the number of ants
On a Tennessee anthill
Yeah, there's thirteen hundred and fifty two
Guitar cases in Nashville
And anyone that unpacks his guitar can play
Twice as better than I will
Complete with pedal steel courtesy of the late Zalman Yanovsky, played on a cable-operated Fender.
"pick it..."
Posted: 15 Mar 2014 6:15 pm
by Chris Lucker
Doug Beaumier wrote:57,479
Doug, I parted out a Fender 1000 the other day, so you need to update your records. 57,478.
Posted: 19 Mar 2014 1:40 am
by Alan Brookes
Chris Lucker wrote:Doug Beaumier wrote:57,479
Doug, I parted out a Fender 1000 the other day, so you need to update your records. 57,478.
And I built a pedal steel in 1971 that is not in the statistics, making that 57,479 again, but, then, the mechanism didn't work very well, so I converted it to a non-pedal console steel, bringing the figure to 57,478. Then, again, I restored two Sho-Buds about ten years ago, which have already been included in the "built" figure. Hey, this is getting too confusing for me. It's no good knowing how many pedal steels have been built without knowing how many have been scrapped, and how many are sitting around in people's basements, unplayable but might or might not be restored at some stage in the future, if the Good Lord's willing and the crops don't rise. Maybe some of you should sign up for my Procrastination Workshop...
http://bb.steelguitarforum.com/viewtopi ... n+workshop