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Posted: 3 Jul 2012 5:46 am
by Helmut Gragger
Jerry,

awsome job and beautifully done. I know what I speak of since I have made one myself.

I used the same pickups, they leave nothing to be desired.

Talking about cost... I found out if you want an instrument or case cheap, buy one :D. DIY is not cost-effective in times of mass-production and CNC milling, but it is eminently satisfying.

The downside is, if the instrument gets lost somehow, you´d be more sad than if you just bought one.

-helmut

Posted: 3 Jul 2012 7:19 am
by Jon A. Ross
Very nice work, and you will never hear me say anything negative about flamed maple!!!

Posted: 3 Jul 2012 11:01 am
by Jerry Gleason
Thanks again, everyone! I've been playing it for a few more hours now, and it keeps getting better. It's interesting, the wood takes some time to stabilize and get accustomed to the string tension and vibration. Although it was good right from the start, it's now even more resonant, like the wood has to get used to being a musical instrument instead of a tree, and the molecules line up in a certain way so that it vibrates more freely, or something... I dunno. Anyway, it sounds pretty nice, and as it gets broken in, it'll only get better.

Posted: 5 Jul 2012 9:38 pm
by Todd Clinesmith
Looks amazing Jerry. Very classy. You will make it sound just as good as it looks .
Congrats,
Todd

Posted: 5 Jul 2012 9:52 pm
by Jerry Gleason
Thanks, Todd! It was partially inspired by one of your designs that I liked. Give me a shout next time you come to town, we'll get together.

Posted: 6 Jul 2012 7:19 am
by Don McClellan
Jerry, Where did you get the legs and leg mounts and how deep set are the leg mounts into the bottom of the guitar? Thanks, Don

Posted: 6 Jul 2012 11:17 am
by Jerry Gleason
Don, the stainless steel legs and aluminum sockets were made by Don Burrows ( bsgsteelguitars.com ). He can give you the exact specs. I can only recall that the outer flange recess diameter was 3" and the inner was 1 3/8". I don't remember the depth, but this snapshot I took while mounting them should give you a rough idea of the size.


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Posted: 6 Jul 2012 11:58 am
by Dom Franco
Simply breathtaking!

Dom :eek:

Posted: 6 Jul 2012 6:01 pm
by Don McClellan
Thank you Jerry, Don

Posted: 7 Jul 2012 5:05 am
by Bud Angelotti
Holy Cow Jerry! I'd like to see the one you build when you ARE experienced. :whoa:

Posted: 7 Jul 2012 12:44 pm
by Carl Mesrobian
CrowBear Schmitt wrote:...
if i recall you're a surgeon ?...
I think that was Jackie Gleason :lol:

Jerry, that's beautiful work for a first time project - I often wish I still had my first archtop guitar I built - it was a cannon!

Did you use big leaf maple?

Posted: 7 Jul 2012 1:12 pm
by Jerry Gleason
Thanks again for all the kind words. Carl, it's Eastern Maple, according the hardwood place I bought it from, but the curly maple body is a little less dense than the wood I used for the necks and keyheads that isn't quite as pretty.

I'm playing it a lot. When I get something recorded with it, I'll start a new thread for that.

Posted: 7 Jul 2012 1:45 pm
by Carl Mesrobian
I get birdseye and curly from a lumber yard in New Hampshire - the birdseye is hard , the curly is either soft or hard. If you can find a local supplier, you can save on shipping and get to cherry pick without dealing with returns. Great if you have the time :)

Posted: 15 Jul 2012 2:15 pm
by Alan Brookes
A great job, Jerry. Welcome to the club, now lets see how long it is before you build the next one. Building lap steels is like potato chips... you can't eat just one and stop. ;-)

I would love to see pics of how the Fret Board was created

Posted: 17 Jul 2012 7:09 am
by David Keller
The fretboard looks amazing in the pics. Maybe a primer on how you created it and what the print out looked like before you put it on.

Is it glued on?
Did you laquer over it?
Did you print it at a store like Kinkos?
Am I asking too many questions?

Posted: 17 Jul 2012 8:53 am
by Alan Brookes
The question I would ask about the fretboard is, "What material did you print it on?"

I once printed a fretboard onto transfer paper, which is made with a backing that separates when immersed in water. That way the grain shows through when applied, and you varnish over the top of it to set the transfer. People who build models use a solvent called Micro-Sol to help waterslide transfers adhere to painted surfaces. When building instruments without a body cavity I usually apply my builder's label in that way, as I am of the opinion that the paper builder's label usually glued inside an instruments looks tacky when applied to the outside of a solid instrument.

Posted: 17 Jul 2012 12:13 pm
by Jerry Gleason
The fretboards are not exactly identical. Each one has a unique background image that matches the wood underneath the neck. In a fleeting moment of vanity, I also put my name on the last fret of one of them.

On my earlier single neck, (the "When You Wish Upon a Star" guitar), I printed the fretboard on paper, and laminated it on each side with clear 5 mil plastic. By the time I made this, I no longer had access to a large format printer and laminator, so I had to go to Staples. These were printed on vinyl, the same material used for signs and banners. There are some advantages to this over paper; it's waterproof, and it makes a nice matte, non-reflective surface, albeit with a little less contrast than laminated paper. It is more subject to damage from abrasion, however, so If I do this again, I would coat them with spray lacquer after the ink has dried for at least 48 hours.

I made several designs to fill a sheet about 24" x 24", and cut them out by hand. Because it goes next to the black binding on the neck, I also had to go around the outside of the cut edges with a black sharpie. It's just put on the neck with glue-stick, so it can be easily removed and replaced if I decide I want something different.

Although I used Photoshop to make them, it doesn't really matter what you use to create the design, the main thing is that you end up with a PDF file that when printed at 100%, comes out exactly the right size. It's an easy, economical way to do it when all you need is one or two. If you were going to make dozens, then it's worthwhile to pay for the setup involved for silk screening or other commercial printing options.