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Posted: 10 Dec 2009 6:21 am
by David Wright
Posted: 10 Dec 2009 7:50 am
by Rick Campbell
That's the way it should have been done all along. I did like the kick off there at the end.
apartment # 9
Posted: 10 Dec 2009 8:49 am
by Darrel Muzney
All the steel parts are great. Paycheck nailed the vocal on this song. Of course I think he nailed every thing. Darrel
Posted: 10 Dec 2009 5:18 pm
by Rick Campbell
When you heard Payceck, there was no having to stop and think about who it was. He's one of the all time best in my book, but even at that he has some songs that I didn't care for. Don't Mess With Another Monkey's Monkey, Me and the IRS, and several others. I thought they we're silly. I believe Johnny felt so too. You know, I can't think of one artist that I like everything they do. I can think of some that I don't like anything they do.
Posted: 10 Dec 2009 7:20 pm
by Jamie Lennon
Charley Dickason wrote:I really have to agree with Ray, Dave does as good or better than anyone on the four songs in Walter's post (yes, including Lloyd Green). I bet Lloyd listens to Dave's Utube videos and thinks to himself: "wow, I wish I was that good!!!"
Again people on the forum should keep certain opinions to themselves and not post stuff like the above comment
And my opinion the best steel playing I have heard is when Paul Franklin played it in the station inn, took the whole lead break and wow !!!!
Posted: 10 Dec 2009 9:36 pm
by Rick Campbell
Jamie Lennon wrote:Charley Dickason wrote:I really have to agree with Ray, Dave does as good or better than anyone on the four songs in Walter's post (yes, including Lloyd Green). I bet Lloyd listens to Dave's Utube videos and thinks to himself: "wow, I wish I was that good!!!"
Again people on the forum should keep certain opinions to themselves and not post stuff like the above comment
And my opinion the best steel playing I have heard is when Paul Franklin played it in the station inn, took the whole lead break and wow !!!!
I'm curious, who was singing it at the Station Inn?
Posted: 11 Dec 2009 4:34 am
by Theresa Galbraith
I would guess Dawn Sears.....
I dig it David!
Posted: 11 Dec 2009 5:50 am
by Willis Vanderberg
I think it is one of the best songs Paycheck ever wrote. He didn't sing it too bad either.
Posted: 11 Dec 2009 1:56 pm
by Jamie Lennon
Georgette Jones sang it there
Posted: 11 Dec 2009 2:29 pm
by Rick Campbell
Jamie Lennon wrote:Georgette Jones sang it there
That would have been good. Dawn would have been good too.
One of the things that made Tammy's cut so good was her singing harmony to herself. The very last note was a little weird. Listen to it sometime. I used to listen to Tammy's songs and dissect them note by note. I loved the way they started out and built all the way through. I believe Billy Sherrill was the brains behind that.
I remember (I think it was Saturday night live, I was young) did a skit on Tammy and made fun of the way she phrased her words. At first it pi$$ed me off, but then I realized that you have to be pretty famous for them to point the finger at you.
Jamie,
You're a lucky guy. Pretty girl, great singer, plenty of country music history to be surrounded with, GJ, and you're very talented picker yourself. I hope you like GJ's sausage. If you don't, I'd lie about it.
Posted: 11 Dec 2009 4:38 pm
by Theresa Galbraith
Jamie,
So sorry, I remember Georgette did sing it the night we first met at the Station Inn. She did a great job!
Posted: 11 Dec 2009 9:42 pm
by Jamie Lennon
heres the vid
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x40Gho75lKg
listen to paul on this, best in my eyes, !
Posted: 11 Dec 2009 10:58 pm
by Mike Sweeney
Rick,
Tammy didn't sing the harmony on the record. Her step daughter Donna Chappel did. Also Donna's tribute c.d.to Tammy is who I played on. At that time Tammy was still married to Don Chappel.
Posted: 11 Dec 2009 11:10 pm
by Rick Campbell
Okay. I've learned something. I thought for all these years that it was Tammy doing both parts. In that case, Donna deserves much of the credit for the great record, because that unique harmony is such a key part of the sound, and the bass walkups.
Thanks for correcting me.
Posted: 11 Dec 2009 11:32 pm
by Rick Campbell
Please excuse the off topic, but can someone tell me who the steel player is in this video?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t6EV49ERWFc
Posted: 12 Dec 2009 5:51 am
by Franklin
Jerry Byrd is on rhythm guitar. He was the band leader. Walter Haynes is on steel.
Paul
Posted: 12 Dec 2009 6:02 am
by Jeff Evans
Posted: 12 Dec 2009 6:09 am
by Roger Rettig
...and who's the guitar-player? I should know - he's too good to be a secret!
Posted: 12 Dec 2009 6:17 am
by Roger Rettig
Paul!!! I agree with Jamie - your solo is the best yet!
I love Andy Reiss' tone on that video - perfect!
Posted: 12 Dec 2009 6:28 am
by Jim Hartley
Hey Roger,
I'm not sure of the timing, but that sure looks like a very young Spider Wilson. Anybody know for sure?
Jim
Posted: 12 Dec 2009 6:50 am
by Olli Haavisto
Jamie Lennon wrote:Charley Dickason wrote:I really have to agree with Ray, Dave does as good or better than anyone on the four songs in Walter's post (yes, including Lloyd Green). I bet Lloyd listens to Dave's Utube videos and thinks to himself: "wow, I wish I was that good!!!"
Again people on the forum should keep certain opinions to themselves and not post stuff like the above comment
Yep,
Great steel guitar sure didn`t start with YouTube...
Posted: 12 Dec 2009 8:19 am
by Rick Campbell
Thanks for the ID on Walter. While we're at it, is this also Walter playing guitar in this one? Can you ID any of the other band members?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dnq4FDs6 ... L&index=54
Posted: 13 Dec 2009 5:41 am
by Paul King
David Hartley is a good steel player but so is Lloyd Green. I have heard many great steel players play songs previously recorded and they usually tried to be different than those who played on the records. Everyone has a different style and sound and that makes all of us unique. That one statement was a low blow to Lloyd Green and I sure am happy to see he responded. His recording career speaks for itself. Lloyd Green deserves more respect than someone to take a cheap shot at him. As far as Apartment #9, I really like the Pete Drake version but I have heard others that sound good to me as well.
Posted: 13 Dec 2009 6:09 am
by Bill Hankey
I heard Johnny Paycheck and Jay Andrews on pedal steel guitar sing and play "Apartment #9" a few years ago in Tennessee. There never has been a desire to look further to find a better copy. Johnny's band rounded out a very entertaining new version of the great country song.
Posted: 13 Dec 2009 6:31 am
by Roger Rettig
I wrote (somewhat thoughtlessly);
"Paul!!! I agree with Jamie - your solo is the best yet!"
Paul's 'take' on the song is splendid, of course, but that takes nothing away from the fresh approach of Lloyd and Pete Drake all those years ago. Deceptively simple, but groundbreaking.
As for Charley Dickason's suggestion that Lloyd might be in some way be unsettled by David's performance - well, it's obviously absurd. To give Charley the benefit of the doubt, I'm going to assume that he was speaking in jest. I hope he was, anyway.
David plays very well, but he's clearly influenced by Lloyd Green, a man who, by virtue of his unique approach to music in general and E9th in particular, defined a brand-new style all those years ago. Who among us has not - consciously or otherwise - 'borrowed' something from his work?
Credit where it's due - Lloyd Green might be the most innovative E9th player ever.
I apologise for my hasty remark earlier in the thread ('though I still think that solo is terrific!)