Posted: 21 Aug 2002 4:50 pm
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Posted: 21 Aug 2002 5:23 pm
It's all over, but the crying now! "Big John"
Posted: 21 Aug 2002 6:04 pm
AND HERE"S JODY,,,,,,,,lemme hear that band,,c;mon louder,,Hey Drummer man,,hold that beat,,,,these guys are rushing the tempo.
What I read here,,I can only say,,Bob Maickel
has been my friend for over 56 years,,we literally grew up together,,hell,he even got his first Fender guitar from me.
Do ya'll spect me to sit here without sayin a piece or two??? Naw,,,that wouldnt be me..
So,,,Bob read something that he felt was an insult to his PSGA club,,OK so what. He sounded off,,is he the first one who ever did that? Is he the only one who has voiced
an opinion and let off steam?
I have seen posts on here that have left me cold,,some arrogant,,,ignorance,,some self centered individuals with nothing else to do but post insignificant things and all of the above.
I have seen people "gang" up on a Forum member,,one time someone was so angry at another Forum member,,,he posted "I HOPE YOUR DOG DIES" now how does this person know the other guy has a dog? If he has no dog,,is he to go to the dog pound and bring a
sick dog home to die to satisfy the persons
wish? If he brings home a dog who is healthy
does he wish ill health on this dog? Is there
such a person like Dr.Kervorkian for dogs and cats?? What does this person do?? Play Heavy Metal Music for the dog hoping to drive the dog insane???
Is that what people on this Forum are all about? Bob is and will always be a friend of mine no matter what,,,I hang in there with my
friends,,,,,right or wrong..
I think Bob was guilty of one thing and one thing alone..he should have not wasted his time to let this bother him as it obviously
did,,he's human,,maybe a bit thin skinned like myself,,,but I'll say one thing ,,I dont
enjoy a "gang bang" that is not my bag,,and
I dont have a sick dog so dont wish anything
on me,,,cause it wont happen.
Rather than see Bob attacked for something he may have said in a moment of anger,,I would rather quit this gig... Paul Harvey.
Good day. Dont leave your pants in the dressing room,,I did, and look at me now.
Im Back In The Saddle Again..with a horse and no pants on,,,,think thats easy....talk about ridin bare back,,Im ridin bare $ss.
Bob will ALWAYS have my friendship and RESPECT,,,,,,remember that long forgotton word...CONSIDERATION...it may be of some help
to you one day...Get a Dog,,then you can beat
up on the dawg..OH yeah I almost forgot,,
COMPASSION for the other guy.......Lock er up
there Sheriff. The Posse is a comin. edited
My dog has "hemmorhoids" can he die from that? hope not,,someone may wish that on me.
<FONT SIZE=1 COLOR="#8e236b"><p align=CENTER>[This message was edited by Jody Carver on 21 August 2002 at 07:15 PM.]</p></FONT>
What I read here,,I can only say,,Bob Maickel
has been my friend for over 56 years,,we literally grew up together,,hell,he even got his first Fender guitar from me.
Do ya'll spect me to sit here without sayin a piece or two??? Naw,,,that wouldnt be me..
So,,,Bob read something that he felt was an insult to his PSGA club,,OK so what. He sounded off,,is he the first one who ever did that? Is he the only one who has voiced
an opinion and let off steam?
I have seen posts on here that have left me cold,,some arrogant,,,ignorance,,some self centered individuals with nothing else to do but post insignificant things and all of the above.
I have seen people "gang" up on a Forum member,,one time someone was so angry at another Forum member,,,he posted "I HOPE YOUR DOG DIES" now how does this person know the other guy has a dog? If he has no dog,,is he to go to the dog pound and bring a
sick dog home to die to satisfy the persons
wish? If he brings home a dog who is healthy
does he wish ill health on this dog? Is there
such a person like Dr.Kervorkian for dogs and cats?? What does this person do?? Play Heavy Metal Music for the dog hoping to drive the dog insane???
Is that what people on this Forum are all about? Bob is and will always be a friend of mine no matter what,,,I hang in there with my
friends,,,,,right or wrong..
I think Bob was guilty of one thing and one thing alone..he should have not wasted his time to let this bother him as it obviously
did,,he's human,,maybe a bit thin skinned like myself,,,but I'll say one thing ,,I dont
enjoy a "gang bang" that is not my bag,,and
I dont have a sick dog so dont wish anything
on me,,,cause it wont happen.
Rather than see Bob attacked for something he may have said in a moment of anger,,I would rather quit this gig... Paul Harvey.
Good day.
Dont leave your pants in the dressing room,,I did, and look at me now.Im Back In The Saddle Again..with a horse and no pants on,,,,think thats easy....talk about ridin bare back,,Im ridin bare $ss.Bob will ALWAYS have my friendship and RESPECT,,,,,,remember that long forgotton word...CONSIDERATION...it may be of some help
to you one day...Get a Dog,,then you can beat
up on the dawg..OH yeah I almost forgot,,
COMPASSION for the other guy.......Lock er up
there Sheriff. The Posse is a comin. edited
My dog has "hemmorhoids" can he die from that? hope not,,someone may wish that on me.
<FONT SIZE=1 COLOR="#8e236b"><p align=CENTER>[This message was edited by Jody Carver on 21 August 2002 at 07:15 PM.]</p></FONT>Posted: 21 Aug 2002 6:06 pm
Never met a man that cared more for the steel guitar than Sam; anyone that would slam his "post" to promote the steel guitar has a problem.
Posted: 21 Aug 2002 6:19 pm
THERE IS NO PROBLEM HERE,,,,THE PROBLEM IS IN IRAQ. This is all his fault,that louse.
Yeah and what about slick Willie?? hell when
he held office,,Sears had a Presidents day sale in his honor...........
ALL MENS PANTS HALF OFF,,,,,what a deal.
Those were the days....
Yeah and what about slick Willie?? hell when
he held office,,Sears had a Presidents day sale in his honor...........
ALL MENS PANTS HALF OFF,,,,,what a deal.
Those were the days....
Posted: 21 Aug 2002 6:44 pm
O.K enough misfires here, back to the subject. Louie time for the Texas Steel Guitar Association.
Chuck Norris NFM
Chuck Norris NFM
Posted: 21 Aug 2002 8:34 pm
Right on Chuck,,,we could all use a little shut eye and "shut up" about now,,,,gotta walk the dogs,,,thats more important..than
makin bad feelins...
Hey Chuck,,,here's a poem I made up,,ready??
OK let er rip..
The Bee Is Such a Busy Soul
He Has No Time For Birth Control
That Is Why In Times Like These
There Are So Many "Sons of "Bee's"
ya get it? Goodnite all. Sweet Dreams.
Rodney Dangerfield,,he gets no respect,,he should talk,,,,I have no pants.
makin bad feelins...
Hey Chuck,,,here's a poem I made up,,ready??
OK let er rip..
The Bee Is Such a Busy Soul
He Has No Time For Birth Control
That Is Why In Times Like These
There Are So Many "Sons of "Bee's"
ya get it?
Goodnite all. Sweet Dreams.Rodney Dangerfield,,he gets no respect,,he should talk,,,,I have no pants.
Posted: 21 Aug 2002 9:28 pm
Jody,
I too have a lot of close friends just as you and Bob Maickel are. And that's a good thing. I also try to stand by my friends in whatever situation or circumstance. However, if my close friend is wrong about a situation or circumstance or whatever, I'll not defend him as being right. As his friend and because I am his friend I would try to help him do what is right or correct the wrong that he has done.
Bob Maickel was wrong both in his interpretation of what Sam said/asked and his vehement attack on Sam personally in a public venue.
I don't argue that he doesn't have that right to do so. He, you, I and everyone else has that right. I even joined the armed forces to help make sure that we all, including Bob Maickel and millions of people I'll never know, have that right, and would do so again if they would have me.
Sometimes, the best people to point out our errors are our friends.
Just one of those "sons of a busy bee",
BB
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If you play 'em, play 'em good!
If you build 'em, build 'em good!
I too have a lot of close friends just as you and Bob Maickel are. And that's a good thing. I also try to stand by my friends in whatever situation or circumstance. However, if my close friend is wrong about a situation or circumstance or whatever, I'll not defend him as being right. As his friend and because I am his friend I would try to help him do what is right or correct the wrong that he has done.
Bob Maickel was wrong both in his interpretation of what Sam said/asked and his vehement attack on Sam personally in a public venue.
I don't argue that he doesn't have that right to do so. He, you, I and everyone else has that right. I even joined the armed forces to help make sure that we all, including Bob Maickel and millions of people I'll never know, have that right, and would do so again if they would have me.
Sometimes, the best people to point out our errors are our friends.
Just one of those "sons of a busy bee",
BB
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If you play 'em, play 'em good!
If you build 'em, build 'em good!
Posted: 21 Aug 2002 9:30 pm
I humbly apologize to Sam White and to all concerned regarding my reply to Sam's original post. There was a miscommunication which prompted me to reply in the manner I did. I meant no harm to Sam, whom I consider a friend and a pioneer in promoting the steel guitar in Rhode Island. May he continue to enjoy good health while he dedicates his efforts toward the advancement of steel guitar.
Thanks Sam for all your hard work and dedication!
Thanks Sam for all your hard work and dedication!
Posted: 21 Aug 2002 11:17 pm
Bob,
I appreciate what you just did. It takes a real man and a sincere person to apologize and for that, you have all my respect back.
May God bless all.
BB
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If you play 'em, play 'em good!
If you build 'em, build 'em good!
I appreciate what you just did. It takes a real man and a sincere person to apologize and for that, you have all my respect back.
May God bless all.
BB
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If you play 'em, play 'em good!
If you build 'em, build 'em good!
Posted: 22 Aug 2002 4:38 am
Bob Miackle I accept your Apology and as a member of the PSGA I will remian a member even if you did not Apologize to me.I only got involved with steel guitar 5 years ago. I had one back in 1976 new nothing about it but just wanted to play a steel guitar.I keep it for a couple of months and new nothing about it so I sold it.I just got going on a new Fessenden that Jerry built for me and that is when I finaly got involved with Pedal Steel Guitar. I never played a Instrument in my life. I wanted to play steel when I was 10 years old.All my freinds were in Rock and Roll and they use to laugh at me because I would listen to Hank Williams,Webb Peirce, Dottie West,
Skeeter Davis,Kitty Wells,and all the old time country music.Also I do not know all the Steel Guitar Associations as I have been to involved with my Assoc. and now I joined The Mid Atlantic Steel Guitar Association and I'm busy trying to learn songs to play at there shows every month.The MASGA has a steel show every month and I go all over the area to be at them. I will be running The Rhode Island Steel Guitar Association Show September 22nd and then be back here in Wilson North Carolina the folling week end.I'm bad when I play and goof up. The last show on Sunday morning I goofed up right away. I did not say a word to anyone I got up and packed up and came home.I was just so ticked off at myself I did not want to stay there and face all those great Steel players it kind of hurts when I can't even pick up from the player before you.I will keep trying and some day I'll get it right.So you see Bob I have a lot going and don't have time to do a lot of reading. I want to play this Steel so bad I can taste it.I spend most of my time trying to play Steel Guitar.
Sam White
Skeeter Davis,Kitty Wells,and all the old time country music.Also I do not know all the Steel Guitar Associations as I have been to involved with my Assoc. and now I joined The Mid Atlantic Steel Guitar Association and I'm busy trying to learn songs to play at there shows every month.The MASGA has a steel show every month and I go all over the area to be at them. I will be running The Rhode Island Steel Guitar Association Show September 22nd and then be back here in Wilson North Carolina the folling week end.I'm bad when I play and goof up. The last show on Sunday morning I goofed up right away. I did not say a word to anyone I got up and packed up and came home.I was just so ticked off at myself I did not want to stay there and face all those great Steel players it kind of hurts when I can't even pick up from the player before you.I will keep trying and some day I'll get it right.So you see Bob I have a lot going and don't have time to do a lot of reading. I want to play this Steel so bad I can taste it.I spend most of my time trying to play Steel Guitar.
Sam White
Posted: 22 Aug 2002 5:35 am
Boy I'm getting better when I can sit back with my fingers itching to type. One Forum rule is "attack the issues not the person".I thought it was a great Idea to see how many Associations for the pedal steel there are out there.I lived in New England for several years and was aware of the PSGA and some of the great events they put on. but I never had many Sundays off to travel except the wallingford shows I got to with Smitty. The great thing about one association is that it usually gets you information about another and the Pedal steel is the winner. I was always busy playing 5-6 nights a week so I couldn't attend one all the time unless my Pedal steel Player was playing in one and asked me to front his set.Jimmy Smith who played Steel with me for a bunch of years and beers and who now lives in Texas introduced me to Pedal steel shows, When he was involved with the Dekley Pedal Steel Corp . You have to admire Sammy Whites energy and his efforts in promoting The new (so to speak)Rhode Island group.(Must have a good travel budget) No less an effort than any other established clubs. We have one forming here in Florida right now. (might say west central Fla.) Jack Stoner put me on his mailing list so I will make a strong effort to support this new club.Not everyone on the Forum is a great player in fact some are not players and you don't have to be to love and support one of the greatest instruments ever invented. Certainly one of the most difficult to master.I won't comment on the comments because they were manly corrected.Nice to see there are guys like Bowman and Carver out there willing to say what they feel should be said. Now back to the friendliest place to be on the Forum.
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CJC
Posted: 22 Aug 2002 5:53 am
STAND BY YOUR MAN,,,,unless he has
"Flatulance"
"Flatulance"
Posted: 22 Aug 2002 6:22 am
b0b will be glad to add your site to the list, Sam.<SMALL>Mike I don't see THE RHODE ISLAND STEEL......</SMALL>
Posted: 22 Aug 2002 8:20 am
Holy cow Sam, you sure know how to stir the pot and keep the forum interesting! )
Best Regards
Jim
)Best Regards
Jim
Posted: 22 Aug 2002 11:30 am
unfortunatly there is NO PSG Assoc here in France ! BooHooHoo !
Read'em and Weep !
Keep up the good work guys !
Read'em and Weep !
Keep up the good work guys !
Posted: 22 Aug 2002 6:06 pm
Let There Be Peace In The Valley.<FONT SIZE=1 COLOR="#8e236b"><p align=CENTER>[This message was edited by Jody Carver on 22 August 2002 at 07:10 PM.]</p></FONT>
Posted: 22 Aug 2002 6:08 pm
Sam
I dont know you,,I have never met you,,,but many times Bob has spoken well of you.Please
for your own sake,,let this pass,things happen and it was something that shouldnt have,,,but its over. You have many friends out there,,Bob has done more than anyone for the steel guitar in this area,,,,so lets all try to be friends,,life is too short.There are no hard feelings on our end believe that.
Be well
Jody<FONT SIZE=1 COLOR="#8e236b"><p align=CENTER>[This message was edited by Jody Carver on 22 August 2002 at 10:26 PM.]</p></FONT>
I dont know you,,I have never met you,,,but many times Bob has spoken well of you.Please
for your own sake,,let this pass,things happen and it was something that shouldnt have,,,but its over. You have many friends out there,,Bob has done more than anyone for the steel guitar in this area,,,,so lets all try to be friends,,life is too short.There are no hard feelings on our end believe that.
Be well
Jody<FONT SIZE=1 COLOR="#8e236b"><p align=CENTER>[This message was edited by Jody Carver on 22 August 2002 at 10:26 PM.]</p></FONT>
Posted: 22 Aug 2002 6:12 pm
Hey Jimmy bring your Lead guitar as well as your steel to the Steel Show you can give Mike Idhe some breaks for us.I hope you make this show this year it is going to be Bigger and greater.Mow I did not do anything wrong on the forum i just wanted to see how many Steel Guitar Asssoc or clubs there were and I got yelled at . Oh well thats life will they yell at me there leaving others alone.
Sam White
Sam White
Posted: 22 Aug 2002 6:17 pm
Hey Jim how you doing?? Bring your La ead Guitar to the Steel Show you can give Mike Idhe a break once in awhile.Yer I wanted to find out how many Steel Guitar Assoc. or cubs there are and I got Yelled at. Oh well while there picking on me there leving others alone HA Ha
Best Regards Back to You and Judy
Sam White
Best Regards Back to You and Judy
Sam White
Posted: 22 Aug 2002 6:19 pm
Hey Jim how you doing?? Bring your La ead Guitar to the Steel Show you can give Mike Idhe a break once in awhile.Yer I wanted to find out how many Steel Guitar Assoc. or cubs there are and I got Yelled at. Oh well while there picking on me there leving others alone HA Ha
Best Regards Back to You and Judy
Sam White
Best Regards Back to You and Judy
Sam White
Posted: 23 Aug 2002 10:54 am
Sam--before this dialogue got so terribly off course this is what I have compiled from the thread so far:
British Columbia Steel Players
The British Steelies Society
Central Kentucky Steel Guitar Club
Deep South Steel Guitar & Musicians Assoc.
The Florida Steel Guitar Club (I added)
The Hawaiian Steel Guitar Association
Irish Steel Guitar Association
Jugtown Steel Guitar Club, Gardendale,Alabama (update)
Michigan Steel Guitar Club
Mid Atlantic Steel Guitar Association
Minnesota Steel Guitar Association
Northeast Oklahoma Steel Guitar Assoc.(update)
North Tennessee Steel Guitar Association
Northern Ireland Steel Guitar Association
Oklahoma Steel Guitar Association
Ozark Steel Guitar Association
Pedal Steel Guitar Association
Pedal Steel in Germany
The Rhode Island Steel Guitar Association
Rose City Steel Guitar Association
Royal Hawaiian Steel Guitar Hall of Fame and Museum
Southern Steel Guitar Fellowship
Steel Guitar Québec
The Steel Guitar Hall Of Fame
Texas Steel Guitar Association
Surely there are more out there....?
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British Columbia Steel Players
The British Steelies Society
Central Kentucky Steel Guitar Club
Deep South Steel Guitar & Musicians Assoc.
The Florida Steel Guitar Club (I added)
The Hawaiian Steel Guitar Association
Irish Steel Guitar Association
Jugtown Steel Guitar Club, Gardendale,Alabama (update)
Michigan Steel Guitar Club
Mid Atlantic Steel Guitar Association
Minnesota Steel Guitar Association
Northeast Oklahoma Steel Guitar Assoc.(update)
North Tennessee Steel Guitar Association
Northern Ireland Steel Guitar Association
Oklahoma Steel Guitar Association
Ozark Steel Guitar Association
Pedal Steel Guitar Association
Pedal Steel in Germany
The Rhode Island Steel Guitar Association
Rose City Steel Guitar Association
Royal Hawaiian Steel Guitar Hall of Fame and Museum
Southern Steel Guitar Fellowship
Steel Guitar Québec
The Steel Guitar Hall Of Fame
Texas Steel Guitar Association
Surely there are more out there....?
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Posted: 23 Aug 2002 11:21 am
Jugtown Steel Guitar Club, Gardendale, (just north of Birmingham) Alabama.
fwiw...Gardendale was called jugtown before it was incorperated in the 50's because it was home to a clay jug factory.
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fwiw...Gardendale was called jugtown before it was incorperated in the 50's because it was home to a clay jug factory.
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Posted: 25 Aug 2002 11:55 am
William, Good job!! That's what Sam's Post WAS ALL About!..And I thought that it was a good idea!.I know There has been similer post to see where the PSG Assiations are. I know Sam personnally..He is trying very hard to be a Steeler and travels all over going to shows and jams. I also like to go to other shows and jams ..and find it interesting ..just how many associations there are. I tried to start the Tri Cities or East Tennessee Steel Assn last year..had a little help from some great pickers..Herby Wallace,Mike Sweeny,Bryan Adams,Jerry Flemming,Steve Lenord,Pat Jenkins, Fred Layman..and some great musicians and helpers..but the association realy didn't take off...so I've put my efforts into the Mid Atlantic Pedal Steel Assn. and I support the PSGA and NTSGA..plus this forum. I also support the Southern Steel Guitar Assn...and just had a ball at the Chatanooga Reunion.. I thought that I WAS a Steeler..untill I got around some of the "BIG BOYS" and a lot of the vey talanted local and regional pickers. A lot of times..a steeler can't get to pick at one "show or another"..Therefore .the more local or regional PSG Associations is where the "other pickers" can show off or try to play or listen and "steel" some licks.. So a LIST and location of the various PSG associations,clubs,groups,shows,clubs, etc. seems like a great idea to me for the steel guitar enthusiest..every where!!! Crowbear..why not start one in you're area. When I was stationed in Germany..(seems like a 100 years ago) i knew of only about 5 steelers in Germany and Eastern France. And I was one of the 5. I played mostley US Military Clubs in Germany and a couple "GI" type clubs in France.. I understand now that there are Numerous pickers..Just post it ..and agree on a meeting place..or find someone to host it. It won't hurt to try..because it is quite a swim to "our neck of the woods".
Grouchyvet
Grouchyvet