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Posted: **9 Mar 2008 5:32 pm**

A pair of first year LDGs and a circa 75 Cooped black S-10

Posted: **9 Mar 2008 6:29 pm**

here is mine bought it new 1072. this guitar has been cooped all the way.

ernie

Posted: **9 Mar 2008 6:37 pm**

Cool Ernie...... just 6 years after the Norman invasion

Posted: **10 Mar 2008 2:42 am**

My 1972 shobud professional with a added nonpedalneck:

Posted: **10 Mar 2008 2:57 am**

Here's mine. All original.

Posted: **10 Mar 2008 6:59 am**

John,the red sho-bud was custom built for Ben Jack in the early 70's by Paul Franklin Sr when he was with Sho-Bud. I think the inlay was Ben's idea.The guitar also has a tunable compensator on the fourth string,which I have never seen on another sho-bud,although there might have been.This solved the old problem of the E string returning to pitch and has absolutely no cabinet drop.

Posted: **10 Mar 2008 7:53 am**

http://s117.photobucket.com/albums/o54/ ... 20Pro%201/

Posted: **10 Mar 2008 7:54 am**

I had a 1970 Professional but right now these are my Buds.

Posted: **10 Mar 2008 8:10 am**

Russ,

That is one fine brace of dogs you have there!

Posted: **10 Mar 2008 8:35 am**

Mikey D, your "cooped" Pro I looks absolutely great.
So do all the other ones posted here. Thanks fellas.

Posted: **10 Mar 2008 8:37 am**

Mikey D. I looked through all 18, yes count 'em 18 pictures of your Bud and hereby declare it the winner and "best in show", what a beauty. And to Russ, I was just listening to you playing your BudPro yesterday while I was out walking..."well I've been out walking", oops, sorry wrong Jackson Browne song. The other ones that you played your BudPro on were great.
Duncan

Posted: **10 Mar 2008 11:01 am**

Here's my Professional and LDG again, love 'em!

Posted: **10 Mar 2008 11:19 am**

Bottoms up! See Ricky's fine work, and Coop's fine parts.

Posted: **10 Mar 2008 11:28 am**

Posted: **10 Mar 2008 12:57 pm**

Joe Camacho.....

I notice that your LDG has the screws through the neck up at the changer end, like on the Professional. I have one with screws and one without... otherwise identical. Any idea which came first? Later I'll post the serial #s for the two, and see if that sheds any light on the subject.

Posted: **10 Mar 2008 1:14 pm**

mike nolan wrote:Joe Camacho.....

I notice that your LDG has the screws through the neck up at the changer end, like on the Professional. I have one with screws and one without... otherwise identical. Any idea which came first? Later I'll post the serial #s for the two, and see if that sheds any light on the subject.

Mine is a first year model, so with screws came first. When in doubt... ask Ricky.

Posted: **10 Mar 2008 1:24 pm**

Mine are both first year, according to Ricky. But he was also unsure if the ones with screws were in fact the very first ones, or if it just depended on what was on hand......

Posted: **10 Mar 2008 2:01 pm**

Sho-bud Crossover before.........

The legs are not worth restoring.Still needs some coopifying. Just talked to John a couple weeks ago.

Posted: **10 Mar 2008 2:34 pm**

Even though I am well aware of the fact that Sho~Bud serials are somewhat meaningless.....
The LDG with the screws in the neck is 4694. The one without is 5025... It would be interesting to check out other first year LDG serials.

Posted: **10 Mar 2008 3:26 pm**

Well, I just looked back at that pic of LLoyd Green and his LDG doesn't have the screws, so maybe the earlier models didn't have them.

Posted: **10 Mar 2008 3:53 pm**

my '84 Pro-1

Posted: **10 Mar 2008 3:54 pm**

here it is again ...

Posted: **10 Mar 2008 3:56 pm**

Here is some very great information just in from Lloyd Green.

As stated, numbers on Sho-Buds are notoriously unreliable. But in order to add to the body of information I will submit this.
My Sho-Bud LDG, the one I still play, was the very first one built and was delivered to me on May 9th, 1973. It was one of only 8 built with a 24 1/2" scale. Because that length broke far too many 3rd strings the company immediately went back to the shorter scale. To solve my string breakage problem, after about a week David Jackson had Paul Franklin, Sr. change the longer key head to a shorter one thus resolving the issue. You can still see the indention where the longer key head was originally seated.
Additionally, mine has nylon tuners, unlike most LDGs made that first year of 1973 which had the barrel tuners. The nylon tuner system was of course the direction Sho-Bud was heading and I guess I was the guinea pig.
Mine has no screws through the neck at the changer end so I assume the first batch probably didn't either.
The number underneath and stamped into both the metal end plate and wood body is 3407.
The guitar is mostly original and largely the way it was that warm sunny day when David Jackson and Duane Marrs drove into my driveway with the new model.
If you guys want to hear how a largely intact LDG still sounds on records listen to some of the cuts on Dolly Parton's new cd "Backwoods Barbie" and wait for the new Jerry Douglas and Lloyd Green "duet" (a genuine Dobro and steel duet) instrumental recording that will hit the market in May as part of his new album for Koch Records.
The Dolly album also has some cuts with Paul Franklin and Terry Crisp playing their respective steels.

Regards,
Lloyd Green

Thanks Lloyd for the thoughtful history lesson.

Posted: **10 Mar 2008 4:08 pm**

Ricky, Lloyd.... thanks. That somewhat solves a mystery that has nagged me for a couple of years.

Posted: **10 Mar 2008 5:10 pm**

I am fortunate to be able to play on my friend Ted's LDG. He died a couple of years ago, and we played in several bands together over the years. I did not attempt to take up the steel guitar until after he was gone, and his wife brought me his guitar to play. I sure wish I had him here to help me, but his guitar is really awsome.

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