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Posted: **21 Apr 2006 6:22 pm**

Mike D.,

The whole Cartwright thing is creepy, ever notice how Hoss didn't look like the rest of the family? Maybe that is why you never saw a Mrs. C., she may have wound up on the wrong end of one of those Colts after Bennie boy found her in the bunkhouse with some cow "Poke" no pun intended.

I don't even want to go into the Hop Sing thing!

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John Drury
NTSGA #3

Posted: **21 Apr 2006 10:02 pm**

There were a lot of Japanese immigrants in Hawaii in the mid 1800s who no doubt brought with them the yamoto-goto(a 2000 year old slide instrument).Ya reckon young Joe was peekin thru the bushes checking out a Shinto ceremony? (down by the railroad tracks)

Posted: **22 Apr 2006 12:27 am**

And he wrote," I went down to the bushes, to watch the trains roll by" ....NEXT ?

Posted: **22 Apr 2006 2:33 am**

Yes Basil, Joseph was a time traveller.
Download this Mpeg Video file (6Mb) to see for yourself.
This should dispel any more rumours about time and location.

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Peter den Hartogh
1978 Emmons S10 P/P; 1977 Sho-Bud D10 ProIII Custom;
1975 Fender Artist S10; Remington U12; 1947 Gibson BR4; Coffeespoon
[This message was edited by Peter on 22 April 2006 at 12:27 PM.]

Posted: **22 Apr 2006 4:02 am**

Peter,

That is very cool.

The video is a bit blurry. At first I could not tell what the guitarist was doing. I thought the audio and video were from two different sources and just merged together. As the camera closed in I saw the spoon...

Cool rhythm too. Lot's of complexity.

Thanks.

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Gerald Ross
'Northwest Ann Arbor, Michigan's King Of The Hawaiian Steel Guitar'

CEO, CIO, CFO - UkeTone Records
Gerald's Fingerstyle Guitar Website
Board of Directors Hawaiian Steel Guitar Association

Posted: **22 Apr 2006 5:31 am**

Actually Katy was the first person to use a bar:

Katy Bar The Door

This expression meaning impending doom or disaster is most likely rooted in medieval history. On 20 February 1437, King James I of Scotland was assassinated while staying at the Dominican chapterhouse in Perth. The phrase is in commemoration of one of the queen's ladies-in-waiting who tried to save him. There is no definitive proof to link the modern phrase with the historical event, but the similarities in use of language are too striking to dismiss without discussion.

The Katy in question is Catherine Douglas, popularly known as Kate Barlass. A band of murderers, led by nobleman Robert Graeme, had entered the chapterhouse in search of the king. The king's chamberlain, Robert Stuart, was in on the plot and had removed the locks and bolts securing the door of king's chamber. In an attempt to prevent the murderers from entering the room, Catherine used her arm in place of a bolt. The murderers broke the door, and her arm, and succeeded in killing the king. Her descendants to this day bear a broken arm on their family crest and keep the name Barlass.

Howard....I beat you to it.

Harry

[This message was edited by Harry Dietrich on 22 April 2006 at 06:37 AM.]

Posted: **22 Apr 2006 6:10 am**

The whole Cartwright thing is creepy, ever notice how Hoss didn't look like the rest of the family?

Actually, all of the Cartwrights had different mothers - they were all half-brothers. Lorne Greene had horrible luck with women (I believe they all passed away).

Posted: **22 Apr 2006 7:03 am**

Thanks John ... I didn't wanna have to draw my 6-shooter ... twice in the same thread.

Who could forget the episode where "Pa" donned the wig ... and went back in time ... to recreate the meeting/marrage/death of Hoss' mom ... whose maiden name was Gregertsen

As far as the railroad and its bloody history... all I can say is ...

Remember Rock Ridge

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Hawaiian Steel Stuff
The Casteels

Posted: **22 Apr 2006 7:48 am**

This thread has definitely deteriorated.

Sorry Baz!

Harry

Posted: **22 Apr 2006 8:06 am**

We would not have engaged in this fascinating discussion if Joeseph Kekuku had not invented slide guitar and Al Gore had not invented the internet.

Posted: **22 Apr 2006 9:17 am**

Rick - that was the same episode where they explained that "Hoss" was an affectionate (Swedish, I thought, not Norwegian) nickname meaning... what? I forgot, and it's been bugging me ever since.

Posted: **22 Apr 2006 9:42 am**

According to TV Land ...

<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR>Inger Borgstrom-Gregertsen was the mother of Ben’s second child Eric, aka “Hoss” (Dan Blocker). In a tale told in flashback, Inger delivered Hoss but was killed by Indians before she could raise her baby boy.

As Eric once said, "Most people just call me Hoss." His nickname is derived from an old Swedish mountain expression which means "big, friendly man." The name was suggested by Eric’s uncle Gunnar.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

My wife wanted to name our fourth "Hoss" ... I countered with "Moe Joe" ... and she dropped the whole subject ...

Sorry for the topic drift ... but, I'm glad the whole thing is settled now ... thanks to Peter's "lost video".

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Hawaiian Steel Stuff
The Casteels

[This message was edited by Rick Aiello on 22 April 2006 at 11:02 AM.]

Posted: **22 Apr 2006 9:51 am**

Has anyone tried to do what the guy in Peter's video is doing..
It's NOT easy..And I think that over here in the UK, it would be considered sacrilege to treat a tea-spoon that way. (at least before 4:30)

Posted: **22 Apr 2006 11:17 am**

Did a young Joseph Kekuku see a traveling Indian musician?

Well, if he did, that musician must have been working on a cruise ship, because everybody knows musicians can't afford to travel anywhere (except to a gig).

Posted: **22 Apr 2006 11:31 am**

I have updated this Mpeg Video file (6MB) to make it more clear.

Baz, it was a coffeespoon wrapped in insulation tape.

Posted: **23 Apr 2006 9:04 am**

I love that video, I saved it to my hard drive. What a clever guy. I'm pretty sure that was a Bill Stroud spoon, and I think he used tempered tuning.

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Howard

Posted: **24 Apr 2006 9:23 am**

Actually, all of the Cartwrights had different mothers - they were all half-brothers. Lorne Greene had horrible luck with women (I believe they all passed away).

Women who got interested in the Cartwright men had shorter lifespans than the 'new guy' on a Star Trek episode. How many times did a potential sweetie get run over by a loose wagon, or accidentially shot in one of the daily gunfights on the Ponderosa? The Wild West was a rough place fer wimmin'!

Moe Joe Aeillo. Now that's a got nice ring to it!

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Half-assed bottleneck and lap slide player. Full-assed Builder of resonator instruments.

Posted: **24 Apr 2006 11:21 am**

Topic Drift!
The video is more appreciated here: http://www.guitarseminars.com/ubb/Forum1/HTML/013604.html [This message was edited by Peter on 24 April 2006 at 12:54 PM.]

Posted: **24 Apr 2006 6:50 pm**

The fact of the matter is this: young Joseph Kekuku dropped his iPod on his old Spanish guitar and ....

(or not)

Posted: **9 May 2006 11:37 pm**

That Video that Peter posted has 'cropped up' again here :- http://steelguitarforum.com/Forum10/HTML/201511.html
Baz

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