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Topic: Wade Ray in 1957, who's the steel player in the photo? |
Bob Tuttle
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Republic, MO 65738
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Posted 5 Oct 2007 9:11 am |
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Danny Michaels sent me this fairly recent picture of Jim Corwin and Dale Norris. I don't know anything about either of them, but I thought you might enjoy the picture.
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Jerry Hayes
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Virginia Beach, Va.
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Posted 5 Oct 2007 11:46 am
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Bob T........I don't know anything about Jim Corwin except what Billy Tonneson told me but Dale Norris is an old good friend from my SoCal days. I followed him into the Johnny McKnight band in the sixties and we saw each other a lot in the old days. Dale spent some time with Wynn Stewart and was also in the Champs. If you look at the Champs LP which had Tequila in it, Dale was right there on the cover. He was/is a damn good guitar player if there ever was one, very underrated. He was always a little more ahead of the rest of us in chordwork, theory, and all the stuff us hillbillies used to ignore. I talked to him on the phone in August when I was in Tulsa at McKnight's house and he sounded just the same. He's in Missouri now as it costs too dang much to live a human existance in southern California anymore. Dale still plays, teaches, and all that good stuff........JH in Va.
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LJ Eiffert
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California, USA
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Posted 5 Oct 2007 12:38 pm
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| Hey Jerry,I think it Speedy West.It also might be Joe Baker.It's just a shot.If brother Lou Martin was with us,I'm sure he would know.Good luck.Leo J.Eiffert,Jr. |
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Bob Tuttle
From:
Republic, MO 65738
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Posted 5 Oct 2007 1:47 pm
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Here's another picture of Jim Corwin with the Ole Rassmussin Band.
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John Bechtel
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Nashville, Tennessee, R.I.P.
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Posted 5 Oct 2007 3:56 pm
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I played some shows in the early 60's, in Maryland on which Ferlin Huskey was the headliner and his band at that time consisted of Wade Raye, Sammy Pruitt, Drummer (?) and Steel - Jimmy Day!
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Jerry Hayes
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Virginia Beach, Va.
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Posted 6 Oct 2007 8:10 am
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Bob T.......That picture cinches it! The steel player IS Jim Corwin!.....JH in Va.
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Jason Odd
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Stawell, Victoria, Australia
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Posted 6 Oct 2007 5:42 pm
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Dale Norris' early bands, a rough guide.
Joe Bean’s San Antonians circa 1951
Billy Armstrong Band 1952
Bruce Trent Band at Ray's Band Box 195?-1955
Wynn Stewart & The West Coast Playboys 1955
Herb Tucker Band 1955-1957
Unknown band, Bakersfield in '57
Johnny Mosby Band at the Jubilee Ballroom 1957-1958
Champs 1958-1959 various sessions, Champs, Wynn, etc.
Wynn Stewart 1959-1960 including sessions
Lee Ross band at The Shires 1964
Dave? at The Shires 1964-65?
Jim Alley band at The Shires 1965
Johnny McKnight at the Shires mid to late 60s.
With the Champs he appeared on the awesome second LP, a tiny bit of the first, cut enough for another album (most of which appears on the Wing Ding CD comp on Ace Records), and did sessions for various Champs and Wynn Stewart in '59.
Actually, at Dave Burgess request, he gave officially gave notice for Dec. '59, but stayed on until Jan '60 while Johnny Meeks learned the role, which seems to have been Burgess' method of hiring as Glen Campbell had the same thing when he joined in late '60.
Oh and Dale played with Jim Corwin with several of those 50s bands listed above. |
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Jason Odd
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Stawell, Victoria, Australia
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Posted 6 Oct 2007 5:52 pm awesome pics
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Bob Tuttle, thanks for those pics.. in case some folk don't know Bob Tuttle was another young'un on the West Coast scene, another Texan transplant.
Ole's band is an interesting one, besides the classic group that recorded for Capitol through 1950-1952, Phil Baugh, Jim Corwin, Billy Strange, Kenny Norman and others did stints, while Dale Norris used to hang out and bug Earl Finley for guitar tips. |
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Lee Jeffriess
From:
Vallejo California
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Posted 6 Oct 2007 9:21 pm
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The guitar in the first pic, is earlier like Jussi said pre 50, unless the apron was replaced, I think its a different guitar.
Im thinking the guy in the 57 pic is Curly Cochran ?
Lee |
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Jussi Huhtakangas
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Helsinki, Finland
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Posted 7 Oct 2007 12:38 am
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| Hey Lee, nope, it's not Curly Cochran. He was an older guy and looked different, I have a picture of him with his Bigsby ( it also has his name on the front ). |
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Jason Odd
From:
Stawell, Victoria, Australia
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Posted 8 Oct 2007 2:25 am
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I think it's Jim.
.. Jim had his own steel when he played with Ole.. you look at the name, it looks about the right length.
He quit the biz in the mid 50s, probably sold his steel, and was later talked into joining Wade's band in '57, so he got Larry's steel to work with Wade's band. |
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Bill Stafford
From:
Gulfport,Ms. USA
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Posted 8 Oct 2007 6:23 pm Wade
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I used to hitch hike from San Diego to "Cowtown" - stand outside that club and listen to Wade's band. Too young to be allowed inside and never met, or saw, any of those guys at that time. But I do remember hearing Wade announce Eddie Martin when he took a break. This is not much help but I was glad to see Eddie's name posted above.
I took every Wade Ray recording to Korea with me on my ship during that time. Only good music we had on that destroyer.
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Jason Odd
From:
Stawell, Victoria, Australia
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Posted 9 Oct 2007 1:41 am
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Wade Ray
In 1931 to 1943 worked as the fiddler, singer and musical director with the National Champion Hillbillies on KMOX, St. Louis. After serving in the military for a year he worked with Patsy Montana's Prairie Ramblers on the WLS National Barn Dance in Chicago. By 1949 he was working with the band of Rex Allen and moves to California. He worked the clubs from Bakersfield to the Valley, forming his own Western Swing band that year. Ray moved his group to a residency at the Cowtown Club at Vermont on 107th Street, where Hank Penny also worked with a smaller version of his dancehall band.
In 1949 he recorded for Red Redfern's Cowtown label, the resulting 78 rpm six song release featured his group with Bob Morgan (bass), Dick Morgan (guitar), Jimmy Madrid (drums) and Freddie Tavares (steel).
He then moved to Capitol Records before signing with RCA Records in 1951.
During the early 1950s he became a fixture at the Cowtown, with a group that included Bob Morgan, Freddie Tavares (steel) and Muddy Berry on drums.
During the RCA period, Noel Boggs was used as the steel player on most of the sessions, his playing is showcased on RCA material like Cindy Walker’s 'It's Your Fault,’ co-billed as a Wade Ray with Noel Boggs single. Produced by RCA's Steve Sholes, the session crew was: Wade Ray (vocal, fiddle), Chet Atkins (lead guitar), Velma Williams Smith (guitar), Noel Boggs (steel guitar), Owen Bradley (piano), Stan Puls (bass), Monte Mountjoy (drums).
The Morgans, Muddy Berry and Eddie Martin worked with his group in various line-ups, then in 1956 he formed with short lived group with Mont(e)y Mountjoy, Buddy Kendrick (bass), Cameron Hill (guitar) and Noel Boggs.
then in 1957 he moved to Las Vegas, etc. |
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