The Steel Guitar Forum

Saturday almost here time for another broadcast.
We are on the down side of Wichita Lineman. Wonder what is next?

And we get Keith Whitley's turnaround for 'I Never Go Around Mirrors'.



George

George Buechley wrote:And we get Keith Whitley's turnaround for 'I Never Go Around Mirrors'.



George

That was not easy!

The Keith Whitley turnaround was great!

Yeah it was. We got "chimes" coming up tomorrow, if I'm not mistaken? Do ya'll pal or finger chime it, combination of both? I tend to palm it,a holdover from my Telecaster-blaster days, but I work on the finger chimes now and then.

I am having a hard time with the Keith Whitley intro. The part where it goes to 14 b&c then 14 b 12 b with d. I can't figure out how to swap my foot on the pedals. It's a train wreck!!

I mostly use my little finger to chime. When I play Dobro, I use my palm more of the time. I find on PSG using the bent finger method works great for single strings and using my palm is like trying to guess which string I'm going to hit.

George

Jason Putnam wrote:I am having a hard time with the Keith Whitley intro. The part where it goes to 14 b&c then 14 b 12 b with d. I can't figure out how to swap my foot on the pedals. It's a train wreck!!

I had trouble with that for a spell on another tune we were working up a year ago or so. For me, I discovered this little bitty window where the change comes together as your moving the lever and releasing your foot from the BC move. It'll come when you feel it. How's that for helpful?:lol:

What I found was not to try to slam into it too quick. It's more of an easy does it thing, smooth--almost sleight of hand, err, foot. It will come, though. Like many things on this instrument, it's hard to explain, but you'll feel it when that day comes...and then promptly forget it the next day!

Hey Jason - the way to do the 14bc to 14b thing is to simply roll the big toe side of your foot off of the c pedal. This leaves your leg in a good position to engage the 4th string lower (12d), assuming that you have this change on lkr. It's not something that you see tabbed every day but it looks more foreboding than it really is. If this is the only problem that you are having with this turn around, you are in very good shape!

Jason
I'm no expert, but what I tend to do on that change is similar to what Howard said. I slide my foot from the C pedal toward the B and then lean into the knee lever to lower the Es in one move. As Howard said, assuming your change is on that knee.
It is mostly practice, practice, practice.
Take that lick try it several ways then find the way that feels or works the best for you and do it over and over again. Hope this helps.
Lee

Jason,
I'm surprised your E's lower on LKR. My Sho~Bud lowers E's on RKL...and it's an easy move.

George

George that is the old sho-bud setup, my sho-bud has that, and some players use it today. There are licks you can get on there you can't get on the other setups or it's hard to.
Such as lowering your E's and then lowering B's & press your B pedal at same time. I can lower my E's with the LKR and use my vertical raise on the LKV and the B Pedal to get the same thing.
This is the Emmons setup with the LKL on the lower E's.

At a Paul Franklin seminar a couple of years ago he told us about the Nancy Sinatra album/cd that Emmons played on. If I Remeber right and don't want to miss quote him, he said it was some of the best playing of Buddy Emmons.
I brought this up because in today's broadcast William referee to the album.
Country my way Nancy and Buddy.

Yeah! I'd only hear the Wynn Stewart take, but what we went over today was pretty amazing. Going to have to check that one out. I like what Nancy Sinatra did with Lee Hazelwood on Some Velvet Morning, but aside from that and one or two other things, am not familiar with her work. Good stuff today. William even had a robot with gas interrupting through the tail end of the broadcast.

How about that late 60's Emmons he got?

Yes that is one fine sounding Push/Pull Emmons with
the professor stroking it!

Thanks for the tips!! When I basically rebuilt the underside of my shobud, I moved the E raises and lowers to the left knees. I started on a stage one and was already used to this setup. Too much of a learning curve to relearn with knees on the right. so I moved them.

So what is everybody leaning towards as far as hopeful project tune: Blue Jade or Lost in the Feeling?

I would like for William to do Waylon and Jesse's version of
"Wild Side of Life"
and the Youtube "Let's Say Goodbye" that he did.

I forgot he did that Tubb tune, Lee. That's a good 'un!

I would like to get William to either add a few minutes to the Sat. Session or add another session maybe after the E9th to do a Session on C6.

I think for those interested in a separate C6th Session we would have to pay probably another 5.00. I personally would like this.

He would have to know he has backing for this so I need support and names showing you want to do this.

Please leave your name here, email me or William and be counted.

Let's let him know if we want it.

Lee, although I don't have a C6 neck, there is a huge vacuum for C6 instruction and I know William is a damn fine C6 player. We've all heard it.

I think adding a separate C6 session is an awesome Idea!

+ 1 for C6 !! William thought about it before but there was not much interest.
Maybe this time around! It's really not that hard but many seem afraid to try and learn it.
Keeping my fingers crossed!

I'm in on C6. If not a weekly broadcast, perhaps a C6 steelinar or even a song workshop.

I don't have c6 neck either. I would like to learn blue jade. Also like lord I hope this day is good. I'm not sure if this has already been taught since I'm a relative new comer. Then there is also pure love by Ronnie milsap. That would also make into a good instrumental.

Hey Jason, William has a nice instructional DVD for Blue Jade! I really like it.