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Posted: 23 Jul 2010 2:24 pm
by Brint Hannay
Bill, I will stand corrected and apologize. In fact, I have removed the reference to you from my previous post.

Posted: 23 Jul 2010 3:14 pm
by Bill Hankey
Brint,

By all means, please remain unaffected by random circumstances. Enjoy all that life has to offer. My main goals are to retain the things that mean the most to me. Friendships will always involve taking the time to maintain whatever it takes to preserve the values of having a good friend.

Posted: 24 Jul 2010 3:20 am
by Bill Hankey
Must I set my sails for distant shores, and to never look back; save a barely visible wave, far out to sea? To be sure, that translates the reluctances flaunted before my very eyes. What a crew of admonishers! The situation tells of an enthused correspondent reaching out, only to face a wall of backs, forming a blockade, much like a "vertical" rock face extending upward a thousand feet or more into the foggy morning. Challenging great mountains compares with the frustration of disparaging outcries from a wall of disbelievers. Multiples only become impressive by numbers, in the turmoil of controversy. An army of dissidents following one another because one said this is the direction I've decided would be in the best interest of all to travel in, may prove to be futile. I'd rather be on the lookout for the steel guitarist who is confident, and refuses to walk out in middle of a conference. I maintain that much can be learned from a person who persists, and eventually proves a point.

Posted: 24 Jul 2010 5:04 am
by Duane Reese
Bill, you seem to have no shortage in persistence when it comes to postulating about whatever it is that you feel is holding you back, but proving a point is superfluous if no one understands what that point is.

The fact is that no one here is responsible for your satisfaction when it comes to feedback. Do whatever you think, but with all due respect, don't expect the status quo to change as long as you don't do anything different yourself.

Posted: 24 Jul 2010 5:39 am
by Bill Hankey
Duane,

I read you, loud and clear. It's the muffled cries of dissidents who would disrupt and block all roadways to new concepts. Ideas that could lead to furthering the reaches of untried avenues to attainments far superior to present day steel guitar pursuits. It has been established, from what I gather, that those who for one reason or another dwell momentarily on what has been deemed the trending to maximum satisfaction in playable instruments, methods of teaching, etc. Who would brave the multitudes, by announcing that tomorrow is another day. One day far in the future, changes may come about that will liken an Emmons steel guitar, to a Model T Ford... literally wired together!

One controversial item that has been swept under the rug many times, is the abandonment of aircraft cable usages. Steel rods have replaced cables. There is strong evidence that the rods are not less trouble than cables. #1, the cables diameter of 1/16", compares with stainless steel rods that are measured at 1/8" in diameter. That in itself is a hangup. Rods cannot double back numerous times through a series of pulleys. One more strong argument to be pointed out, to those who rarely observe the working parts of the pedal steel.

Posted: 24 Jul 2010 6:45 am
by Duane Reese
Edit: never mind.

Posted: 24 Jul 2010 6:56 am
by Barry Blackwood
Well said, Duane! I have also broken too many cables in the past to ever go back to using them now.

Posted: 24 Jul 2010 8:03 am
by Bill Hankey
Duane,

I set out sparring with what seemed to be a worthy contest or fulfillment even though I suspected a turn of events in your perception, and how you've been misjudging through credulities, apparently seizing upon the spoken words of others. Let me assure you that I've seen a few incorrect statements in your response. There would be no reason to become alerted to your method of tampering with hearsay. Factual statements possess the clout, that brings home the butter.

Posted: 24 Jul 2010 8:12 am
by Bill Hankey
Barry,

I'm surprised if you in fact are serious. I've never known you to be quite so oafish! For your information cables are in use in hundreds of devices. In fact literally everywhere! What does matter, boils down to understanding their advantages over hundreds of inferior methods in delivering a performance utility, free from problems. :) You'd be hard pressed to name 1/20 of their uses according to your comment with the derogatory ring. Pity, that you wouldn't stand behind their dependability.

Posted: 24 Jul 2010 9:31 am
by Duane Reese
Edit: never mind.

Posted: 24 Jul 2010 9:32 am
by Barry Blackwood
I'm surprised if you in fact are serious. I've never known you to be quite so oafish!
I was speaking only about my past experience with steel guitars using cable systems. I have had several break during performances, either the cable, or one of the solder joints where it joins the changer hooks. At that point, one may as well go home, as there's no fixing it onstage. Based on that, I certainly wouldn't advocate using them in modern steel guitars of the day. Current evidence withstanding, I would say most present manufacturers would agree with that opinion. So apparently then, in your mind, that makes the rest of us all oafs, no?

Posted: 24 Jul 2010 9:42 am
by Duane Reese
Edit: never mind.

Posted: 24 Jul 2010 11:52 am
by Bill Hankey
Duane,

Quote: "I once owned a Domland Sterio that was cable-driven, and broke many of the cables because of the problem." There lies a silly notion! You are introducing to the readers the notion that all cable driven steel guitars are subject to breakage. In the first place cables are known to withstand unbelievable amounts of direct pulls without breaking. In other words you've never broken a cable by a direct pull beneath a steel guitar, unless it was first damaged by twisting and turning. Neither have any of the greats who may use that term. It's a pure fallacy. Is this something you'd wish to pursue further, before we move on to other discrepancies that stand out to a wary eye.

Posted: 24 Jul 2010 12:05 pm
by Bill Hankey
Barry,

I am well versed on soldered joints. Very little corrective measures will rid the problem in the shake of a lamb's tail. It's a simple matter to curtail the oversight by whomever trusted that silver solder would hold indefinately.

Posted: 24 Jul 2010 12:09 pm
by Charles Davidson
Mr. Bill, There is one thing for SURE,no DOUBT about it,each post you make only proves how deep in the twi-light zone you are,How long have you practiced [Pick me up]thirty,forty, years ? Do you know it yet.Another thing you SELDOM answer someone question about ANYTHING, You ALLWAYS change the subject with some Looney Tune nonsense that NO ONE can understand .Oh by the way [Pick me up] is one of my favorite tunes, practiced it ONE time years ago,Have been PLAYING it ever since. :wink: YOU BETCHA,DYK?BC.

Posted: 24 Jul 2010 12:29 pm
by Duane Reese
Edit: never mind.

Posted: 24 Jul 2010 1:36 pm
by Bill Hankey
Duane,

As for apologies to Barry, I think that I have a good record of sustaining his verbal assaults. If Barry feels that I owe him an apology, he knows that I wouldn't hesitate if he feels that I've acted in haste by pointing out that he had a moment of oafish behavior. I'm aware that both you and Barry are plenty sharp in scholarly considerations. That isn't to say that you gentlemen are precise to the point of never having to face criticism. Society is saturated with problems, from the richest to the poorest starving citizens in backwoods dwellings. The rich are never satisfied, it's a more,more, more, situation. The poor struggle through life, always a dollar short. There are those who never know the meaning of searching to make ends meet. Avarice, the bad side of men, has destroyed many would be friendships. I can understand how steel guitars fill the void, when friends are lost through misunderstandings.

Posted: 24 Jul 2010 1:48 pm
by Charles Davidson
Mr. Bill, Sir you just proved my point again. :whoa: :eek: :lol: YOU BETCHA,DYK?BC.

Posted: 24 Jul 2010 2:23 pm
by Bill Hankey
Charles,

Do you feel that everything is copacetic in your little corner of the world? I could use a slice of your optimism. From your own words, a stranger reading your punch lines for the first time, would scratch his head, and try to visualize what this culprit does to deserve your head butts.

Posted: 24 Jul 2010 2:48 pm
by Duane Reese
Edit: never mind.

Posted: 24 Jul 2010 3:03 pm
by Chris House
I wake up every day, right here, right in Punxsutawney, and it's always February 2nd, and there's nothing I can do about it.

Posted: 24 Jul 2010 3:22 pm
by Duane Reese
♪ Then put your little hand in mine
There ain't no hill or mountain we can't climb ♪
♪ Babe
I got you babe
I got you babe ♫

Posted: 24 Jul 2010 3:36 pm
by Bill Hankey
Duane,

I'm not sure what you were positively alluding to, when you commenced to yammer, and I quote' "By a person under the influence of schedule 1 narcotics."
Remarks such as those, I refuse to tolerate as innocent, and free from criticism. Basically, your gradual shift to belittling, became more obvious as you moved to argumentative issues.

Posted: 24 Jul 2010 4:23 pm
by Duane Reese
Edit: never mind.

Posted: 24 Jul 2010 4:36 pm
by Bill Hankey
Duane,

It's time to call it quits for the day. Tomorrow will hopefully restore my energies. Trust me, I appreciate your lively responses. I'll sort out a few additional quips that appear to have been inserted in the main stream of friendly exchanges of opinions. I refuse to believe that you can't take criticism, as well as you dish it out. I will inquire about your level of proficiency on the pedal steel guitar, as well as other relevant matters. Most writers are extremely vague when the exchanges move to steel player issues.