The Steel Guitar Forum

Ric,
Glad to hear you play a variety of music today. I'm sure that's how you keep working.
Keep steeling! Theresa<FONT SIZE=1 COLOR="#8e236b"><p align=CENTER>[This message was edited by Theresa Galbraith on 13 September 2000 at 03:54 PM.]</p></FONT>

Bob Brocius,
One reason why DJs talk over intros and endings is to prevent listeners from making a full copy of the song. Don't know how that's relevant in today's technology. Besides, who wants a fully compressed recording of a song?

Erik,

I find your comment interesting. I am not trying to be disrespectful, but do you know this to be a fact?

I know that DJ's often talk at the beginning and ending of songs, but I never dreamed they gave a tee tingers about someone taping the program. By the way, this is one of my all time pet peaves. I have often made the following comment whent DJ's do this,

"If I owned a radio station, I would fire a DJ on the spot who interruped ANY song!!"

But interesting observation anyway,

Walk with HIM and all things will be good,

carl

Ray

"Yes" or "No" won't tell tell you anything.

Two months ago while I was living in Phoenix, AZ the answer would have been a resounding "NO".

I just moved to south Texas and found 2 stations here that I listen to.

One is KFTX, 97.5, in Corpus Christi. About 25% of what they play is traditional country music -- Geo Jones, Conway, Loretta, etc.

The other is 101.7 in Bay City, TX. It plays about 90% (you read it right, 90%) traditional country music. Who could ask for more? The answer here is a definite "Yes".

John Paul Jones

P.S. - Everyone please note my new e-mail address. Thanx. jp

Carl,
I don't have first hand knowledge, but i do remember hearing or reading this years ago. I think it was more of a problem in the 70s when consumer tape decks took off.

I never get SERIOUS responses to anything I ever post here, but if you are serious and want to hear GOOD country music, go to www.Countrygoldradio.com. They play nothing but traditional country during the night time hours and a lot of the daytime hours. You can listen to it 24 hours a day.

As I'm typing this they are playing WAltz of the Angels. Morton Choate is the DJ during the early evening hours then Ron Peterson takes over after midnight. They also have a toll-free request line and requests come in every night from all over the world.

A few nights ago someone requested a song by Toby Keith. Ron said that he hadn't heard the song but they had it so he would play it. I don't remember what it was but it was some head banging rock song. When it was finished, Ron made the dedication again and said, "I hope you enjoyed it, because I'll never play it on my show again" and hasn't.

Again, if you like traditional country, this is available to everyone for free.

Jack

Hey Carl,
I agree with you. It was said best in a movie one time. "If you are going to talk, talk; If you are going to shoot, shoot."
So, if you are going to play music, play.

Bob

I have tried to like the newer stuff but it's now being pumped and dumped so fast I can't get use to any particular song or Artist. What will tell is 20 years from now how many of the Now will be the legends of the past.There are just not that many songs I feel will be classics.As Chet Atkins said they are just putting out the same music daily,only with different Artist.I have no complaints on the Pickers who know what it takes to keep working.Just the lyrics and the selling of the no-talent artist. Now on the New outselling the old,2000 Cadillacs out sell old Caddilacs because they don't make old Cadillacs. Do they still make old Country? In all fairness in every music there are those like myself who try to cling to the Horse that brung them,It was a great ride now it's time for those who can get up on the Horse and see how long they can stay on.

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CJC

<FONT SIZE=1 COLOR="#8e236b"><p align=CENTER>[This message was edited by Joe Casey on 18 September 2000 at 07:01 AM.]</p></FONT>

Hey Joe,
I think Chet Atkins was one of the first innovators to start producing the new cross over artist.
As for cars being sold, the new ones only improve with technology.
George Strait has had to date 47# 1's, his new single is a "shot out of the box" and it's #10 without being released. His last single with Alan only reached #33.
Conway & Merle had 36# 1's.
I hope I'm around to enjoy the lyric and music of change 20 years from now. Theresa

<SMALL>I think Chet Atkins was one of the first innovators to start producing the new cross over artist.</SMALL>

You think correctly.

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Theresa ,Forgive me for always harping on the New vs. Old. I want to see Country grow and it is. I do listen to and like other Music especially Jazz and Good Swing stuff. We shouldn't be afraid of new ideas.However we still should keep some of the old ones,maybe a couple. As far as the twenty years from now, Heck I won't be around to argue the point. But Country Music will. Wherever the future brings it. I just find it hard to desert something that was very good to me.

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CJC

<FONT SIZE=1 COLOR="#8e236b"><p align=CENTER>[This message was edited by Joe Casey on 22 September 2000 at 07:20 AM.]</p></FONT>

To Theresa:

With no malice intended, just an observation...

One day, Paul will no longer be "number one". It happens to EVERYBODY! And I imagine that when it does, he (and maybe you too) might long for a "little bit of yesterday" every once in awhile.

Yea Joe Casey Country music will be around but ,they for sure getting of the radio.
There is no way we can ever go back to what was ,but man it was a good ride.
I took a trip today,and thought I might would liston to the radio, Now beleive me I do'nt think I am so old fashion are and old fuddyduddy but what their playing is not country.So yes I pulled out a Dale watson tape. And explain this if you will, speaking of rock and roll,How old are these songs
Sweet Home Alabama
Give me Three Steps Mister
House of the Riseing Sun
Proud Mary
When A Man Loves A woman
Play That Funkie Music White Boy
Brown Eyed Girl

And I could go on and on,But on rock radio, you hear these everyday?

And your blues radio stations do'nt seem to care how old or how fat BB King ,Howlin Wolf,Muddy Waters, James Brown and on andon they play their music.

But no todays so called country music bean pushers,or so busy trying to make that almighty doller, That they could care less about alot of the oldtimer that got them where they are.

Take a look at the ZZ Top rock group?
Long stringy grey hair, grey beard,look like their dead and just ai'nt fell over yet ,but their still getting airplay.

So you tell me,
Mrs Theresa,You are for sure the defender for the new age rage,that wear the country name,and should be ashame to do so ,know all the time its mostly soft pop rock bop,
But just cause it has alittle steel riff everynow and then ,that do'nt make it country


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BJ Bailey

Donny,
I know alot of you have the mind set that I like the new because of Paul. Well, I certainly love hearing him on the radio. But honestly, I would defend the new country no matter who is playing steel. Simply because I like the songs and like the music content.
Jaydee, Sonny, Mike, Bruce,& Dan No matter who is playing steel I listen with a open heart. You're right when you say someone won't be on top always! Let's just say I hope kids like Johnathan,Brett,Randle, Scott, Jeremy Moyer and others will continue to learn the instrument so they will beable to play whatever is thrown at them. It's called being a musician first, not whether it's traditional country! Theresa

The no's are still winning but we lost big time.MTV bought TNN and moving it too N.Y.
Droping all country programming and will be called, who cares.So long Opry unless somebody else picks that up.Ray

Keep on defending the new stuff, Theresa.

If it weren't for new acts like Phil Vassar, Chad Brock, The Wilkinsons, etc., my wife would've never listened to country music.

Now that she's gotten used to hearing the steel guitar and fiddle in music a little more to her liking, she doesn't cringe nearly as much when the old stuff starts to play. I think it's growing on her.

And believe me, she doesn't like all the new stuff, either. She's kinda particular.

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A big NO.
Most of today's "country-pop" songwriters are corporate robots sent up from the bowels of the devil. They take everything that is pure and true about music and kill it. I'm not pointing any fingers at any musicians, but whoever writes that junk should be put in a quarantined town with britney spears, the backstreet boys and any other bands that would appeal to the mickey-mouse club members. If we ever want the true feeling that is found in "older" country music to be on the radio we would need a complete ideological shift among the prozac masses to stop letting top 40 radio and MTV choose their music for them. Listen to some heartfelt punk, or rock or hip-hop or whatever and then take those sensibilities and approach country music with the same belief in the ability of music to inspire and crush you at the same time. The candy-ass country coming out today has lost all sight of this, but there is still hope for us and it takes a belief in music as a pure religion of the heart. So, today's top 40 country=Pure Trash, and I am sticking to my guns on this one.
Just my opinion (but come-on, whoever doesn't see some truth in this is kidding themselves)
Steve

Steve,

Oh how you do beat around the bush

God bless you son,

carl

<FONT COLOR="RED" SIZE=5>NO</FONT>

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Rick Richtmyer
Good News

If it doesn't have steel, its not country.NO..

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I wonder what the DJs will do if Alan Jackson releases "Blues Man" as a single. This song is over 7 minutes long but the last 3 minutes is all instrumental. (Beautiful steel work by the way. It took me about an hour to find it all.) I'm sure they will have plenty to ratchet jaw about while this pretty music plays in the background.

Bob

<SMALL>I wonder what the DJs will do if Alan Jackson releases "Blues Man" as a single. This song is over 7 minutes long but the last 3 minutes is all instrumental. </SMALL>

On most stations, the last 3 minutes would be cut.

Heck, they cut off MUCH shorter endings than that (like "I Hope You Dance" by LeAnn Womack).

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<FONT SIZE=1 COLOR="#8e236b"><p align=CENTER>[This message was edited by David Pennybaker on 20 September 2000 at 02:47 PM.]</p></FONT>

Sorry guys!
It was released and didn't make it! Theresa

Well, if Blues Man was released and didn't make it, then country music is really headed for the crapper. How could that song fail when "Good-By Earl" made it? Just one opinion. Bob

you bet, not only the great steel and overall arrangement - but Jackson's vocal delivery of that song is wonderful, certainly 7 minutes of really great country with meaningful reverence for the tangles of life on a tour bus.