Band is too Loud!!

[Fred Treece]

And to top it off, I bet he never even called you by your name, Tony!

That must have been the perfect country sound system.

[Jim Sliff]

Mr Sliff, with his snotty and patronising response, is missing the point.

Roger, if you took my response as "snotty" that's your problem.

You posted something as fact that simply *isn't*. If are offended at being corrected maybe you should have done some fact checking before making such a statement of "fact".

Anecdotal "evidence" of standing near bass drums isn't backed by anything in documented history of percussion instruments nor sound engineering training regimen. OTOH if there's a study in acoustics or sound support that includes "standing near a bass drum" as part of the technical analysis I'd love to read it.

[Fred Treece]

Roger’s comment was literally about drum sounds “filling a room”, which is exactly what a larger kick drum does better than a small one, albeit also at a lower frequency. Jim sounds like he does have some science at work in his comments, and I am only qualified to say that maybe he simply misunderstood what Roger was saying. I hope I’m not contributing to the facebooking of an otherwise civilized and good natured thread.

[Roger Rettig]

Nice of you to stick up for me, Fred. I rather suspect that Mr Sliff adopts this somewhat lofty tone habitually.

I've had two 'private messages' commending me for my first response, both from California. Rightly or wrongly I'm drawing certain conclusions.

[Jim Sliff]

Fred, I appreciate your comment - but Roger specifically stated "that's why bass drums are that big to start with..." (italics mine). And they neither " fill a room" sonically nor are they "big" in order to achieve that goal.

It would also be impossible to make that determination from "60 years of standing next to drummers" - and not out in the house, which is what the sound would have to "fill".

I rather suspect that Mr Sliff adopts this somewhat lofty tone habitually.

I've had two 'private messages' commending me for my first response, both from California. Rightly or wrongly I'm drawing certain conclusions.

If refuting those anecdotes with factual statements from the world of acoustics means my comments are "lofty" I plead guilty. I guess my stating facts must be also why Roger obviously has a personal problem with me.

Since I'm obviously well acquainted with all 39 million California residents, Roger, please tell the two that are your buddies that I said hi.

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[Steven Paris]

Mr Sliff, with his snotty and patronising response, is missing the point.

Pretty much standard attitude from this poster. He is coming from the vantage point of everyone being an idiot except, of course, him.

Roger’s comment was literally about drum sounds “filling a room”, which is exactly what a larger kick drum does better than a small one, albeit also at a lower frequency.

THAT's the point!!

I rather suspect that Mr Sliff adopts this somewhat lofty tone habitually.

Precisely!

[Roger Rettig]

Make that three!

Enough of this pointless wrangling - I'm going to practice.

[Barry Blackwood]

Make that three!

Before you hit the woodshed Roger, make that four!