American Idol is Back!

Tony Prior · Post by **Tony Prior** » 25 Feb 2008 2:18 am

No problem Clay, I mean Doug...

you are gonna have to go way further than this to steal my pet goat !

Randy;
Doug dude, I liked that pretty good dawg, I think you got it down

Paula:
Doug, you are just so awesome, I love your Hair

Simon:
Who's Doug ?

Donna Dodd · Post by **Donna Dodd** » 25 Feb 2008 3:03 am

Goat? You gotta goat, Tony????

Bill Hatcher · Post by **Bill Hatcher** » 25 Feb 2008 6:19 am

Andy Greatrix wrote:To anyones' knowledge, has the contract that the winner signs ever been looked over by a qualified lawyer in that field and made available to the public for inspection?

Jess Rosen, a very good guitarist and a heavy weight entertainment lawyer here in the Atlanta area is the lawyer that got Aiken out of his Idol contract. I bet you that this new crop of Idolers and Idolettes will never get out of another one after they close all the loopholes and lock em down forever after Aiken got out.

Doug. I did a concert with Aiken here a few months ago. He sings good, but he is pretty light in the sneakers. He sandwiched himself in between two black girls and they just bantered back and forth like high school girls all night long between the tunes! I think he is doing a Broadway show right now just in case you wanted to maybe find some tickets.

Simon: I don't have any lips!

Paula: I don't have my meds!

Randy: I don't have any contacts!

I kind of like that biker nurse chick.

Roger Rettig · Post by **Roger Rettig** » 25 Feb 2008 11:27 am

Folks - I just came back to this thread for a quick visit.

Doug B.: I can't believe you're still here wasting your breath, but I applaud you anyway.

Doug said:

"I don't. I have never seen the show. I've only seen clips of it on the news. I would not waste 1 minute of my time on this stuff. These kinds of shows take advantage of people and make fools of them."

Clips on the news!!!!? Doesn't it bother anyone here that American TV has sunk to such depths that this garbage qualifies as a news item?

Now I'm getting scared.....

RR

Theresa Galbraith · Post by **Theresa Galbraith** » 25 Feb 2008 12:45 pm

I prefer to hear from people that actually watch the show in mention.

Roger Rettig · Post by **Roger Rettig** » 25 Feb 2008 2:02 pm

Well... actually I was addressing everyone who might be reading the thread, not just you, Theresa.

Theresa Galbraith · Post by **Theresa Galbraith** » 25 Feb 2008 2:09 pm

Roger,
I started the thread.
It's about American Idol. Peoples opinions that watch and vote. I love the show.

Roger Rettig · Post by **Roger Rettig** » 25 Feb 2008 2:24 pm

So: If you start the thread, then you get to sanction the replies (or are we not permitted to respond if we don't share your point of view?)

Theresa Galbraith · Post by **Theresa Galbraith** » 25 Feb 2008 2:41 pm

No Roger,
Voice what you like or dislike about the girls or guys preformance.

Earnest Bovine · Post by **Earnest Bovine** » 25 Feb 2008 2:57 pm

When a performance is out of tune or out of the song's rhythmic feel, I find it difficult to enjoy the performer's putative soulful expressiveness. In other words, I think you should learn to walk before you try to fly.

Roger Rettig · Post by **Roger Rettig** » 25 Feb 2008 3:07 pm

OK, Theresa. You're not going to tolerate any 'topic drift' on 'your' thread, is that it?

Haven't you noticed? It's the things work on an internet chat-room - someone raises a point, then it leads to a broader discussion. 'American Idol' - there is, whether you like it or not, a broader issue at stake, and that's the appalling depths that so-called 'entertainment' has sunk to. These contestants are being manipulated, and so are the viewers - including you.

If you don't want to have unwelcome slants on your discussion, then you should conduct it in private - while it's on here, we're all entitled to express views (within the bounds of decency) and I certainly don't have to confine those views to:

"....what you like or dislike about the girls or guys preformance."

That might well be what you'd prefer, but it's not going to happen. I have limited free time and that programme is the last thing I'd waste it on!

Happy viewing....

Theresa Galbraith · Post by **Theresa Galbraith** » 25 Feb 2008 3:12 pm

Earnest Bovine · Post by **Earnest Bovine** » 25 Feb 2008 3:37 pm

...not until tomorrow I think.

Theresa Galbraith · Post by **Theresa Galbraith** » 25 Feb 2008 5:06 pm

Doug Beaumier · Post by **Doug Beaumier** » 25 Feb 2008 7:53 pm

...while it's on here, we're all entitled to express views

That's true, Roger. And my view is... this show makes fools and suckers of the contestants, and it makes the viewers look pretty foolish too. The sad part is... it's no worse than 80% of the other $^!& that's on commercial TV today.

Craig A Davidson · Post by **Craig A Davidson** » 26 Feb 2008 4:26 am

I can't believe television has dropped as far in the toilet as it has. Don't people have a life anymore, or do they all live for Idol, Dancing With The Stars and all that other dribble that is on. My sweetie watches that stuff. I go to the practice room shut the door and practice. I have seen the show and I think Simon is an a##. The best thing that could happen to him is that some contestant would walk over and biff him right off his chair. Maybe Paula could do it. She is close enough.

Bill Miller · Post by **Bill Miller** » 26 Feb 2008 5:02 am

The show sure does get people riled up. I've often wished that someone would pounce on Simon too. Was it last season he told the kid with the big eyes that he looked like a 'Bushbaby'? He was at his ignorant best (or worst) that night. But then what happened? Instead of slinking away in shame and embarrassment the kid jumps at the chance to come back on in a later episode for the 'rebuttal'. See that's why I have no sympathy for most of these types. For them any kind of attention, either good or bad is the holy grail.

Tony Prior · Post by **Tony Prior** » 26 Feb 2008 5:17 am

The contract is for 3 months, not forever.It's public information and on the website.

90 days , and it's purpose the way I see it is to protect themselves and the amount of $$$ they invest in every singer that THEY put on TV and auditioned, not someone else.

Is there a line of contstants complaining ?

Bill Hatcher · Post by **Bill Hatcher** » 26 Feb 2008 5:24 am

Tony Prior wrote:The contract is for 3 months, not forever.It's public information and on the website.

90 days , and it's purpose the way I see it is to protect themselves and the amount of $$$ they invest in every singer that THEY put on TV and auditioned, not someone else.

Is there a line of contstants complaining ?

Not exactly correct. Here is just one example. There are PLENTY of others. I like the part where the contract reads that if any details of the contract are given out then the people you have the contrat with can sue you for $5Million. Real nice. You really think that Carrie Underwood only had a 90 day contract??

http://dir.salon.com/story/ent/feature/ ... _contract/

Tony Prior · Post by **Tony Prior** » 26 Feb 2008 6:56 am

Carrie Underwood WON ! She won the SONY Contact which is not the same as the 3 month initial contract.

Is she complaining ? I hadn't heard that she was.

It's an American Idol contest, they discover the talent, sing or go home, audition by there terms or go home. Kinda flakey in my book to try to change the terms after the fact. Know them going in , accept them or don't.

I'm almost a Star now thanks to you , so I want to change the contract, is that what we are talking about here ?

Everbody knows the rules at the start.

Bill Hatcher · Post by **Bill Hatcher** » 26 Feb 2008 8:53 am

Simon Fuller the producer of Idol owns the contract with Carrie Underwood. The Sony recording contract with Underwood is not just with her. It is with Simon Fuller also. She is not allowed to have her OWN contract with Sony. He takes between 25 and 50% of everything she makes for probably the rest of her music career.

Remember, with some of the Idol winners there is a 5 million dollar fine to pay if they give the details of their contract with Fuller. What does that tell you?

More food for thought.

http://www.jsonline.com/story/index.aspx?id=233540

Doug Beaumier · Post by **Doug Beaumier** » 26 Feb 2008 8:58 am

He takes between 25 and 50% of everything she makes for probably the rest of her music career.

Remember, with some of the Idol winners there is a 5 million dollar fine to pay if they give the details of their contract with Fuller.

Wow. That sucks. These kids really Are being used.

Ken Thompson · Post by **Ken Thompson** » 26 Feb 2008 11:11 am

I'm with Theresa. Just ignore posts that just want to bitch all the time.

I am looking forward to the next three nights programs. For me it is fun to see each one of them improve and grow. I always appreciate those that may have that "country" flavor to them but I can appreciate talent irregardless of their style.

Bill Hatcher · Post by **Bill Hatcher** » 26 Feb 2008 11:21 am

Here is a real good one to read about all the fine folks at American Idol and the contracts they offer.

http://www.associatedcontent.com/articl ... reams.html

Roger Rettig · Post by **Roger Rettig** » 26 Feb 2008 12:46 pm

I wonder what John Baird and his team would think if they had lived to see just how abused their wonderful invention would be.