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basilh


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Post  Posted 13 Jul 2007 2:56 am    
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Anyone know what model this is ?




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Ernie Pollock

 

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Post  Posted 13 Jul 2007 4:17 am     Humm?
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That looks like something someone has improved upon, thats one great looking Fender, wish it were in my 'arsenal of guitars'.
Whoever did this did a great job on it.

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Donny Hinson

 

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Post  Posted 13 Jul 2007 4:18 am    
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Quite obviously, it's a Fender 2000 that's been hacked down (though rather nicely, I might add) to make a single neck version with a small pad. Note the added trim strips on the body, the "amp logo", the strips added on the pedalboard (to cover the holes from the removed pedals), the added knee levers, and the "half a burst" finish (shading missing on the player side, sure evidence it was once a double). These all point to a very meticulous individual trying to create something that never really was.
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Jim Sliff


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Lawndale California, USA
Post  Posted 13 Jul 2007 5:12 am    
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I agree with Donny, although I think it's entirely possible for Fender to have built it. They did lots of "one-off" guitars in the 60's and 70's and kept very loose records of them. the thing that makes me think it might be from the factory is the metal frame - that would not seem to be an easy chop-job. The missing sunburst, however, doesn't surprise me based on what I've seen on factory custom jobs from those days.

Sure is a nice looking one, though. Baz, where is it?
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Stu Schulman


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Post  Posted 13 Jul 2007 9:11 am    
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Cool Guitar!Jim is right about the "One Of A Kind" guitars that came out of the Fender factory.I once bought an Amp a Vibrosonic that had a JBL D-130 and only two 6L6's and no midrange control...Basically a Super reverb with a 15" speaker.I called Fender to ask them about it,and they said that they never made an amp like that.I was living in Huntington Beach Ca. at the time...so I drove it over to Fender and some guy came out of the back room and said "I'll Be Darned that's one that Forest had been working on "? Forest White" I don't know,They had all kinds of stuff that must have escaped in the middle of the night.
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Skip Edwards

 

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Post  Posted 13 Jul 2007 12:34 pm    
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Very cool steel. I love one-offs. Around 1972 Fender made a one-off guitar for a friend of mine..a Tele with a Jazzmaster floating tremolo setup. It was a cool gtr.
Baz, do you own that steel?
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Fred Glave


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McHenry, Illinois, USA
Post  Posted 13 Jul 2007 2:49 pm    
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Looks like a Fender 800 dropped into a Fender 2000 chasis. With the leftover room they added the Lloyd Green style SD armrest and like Donny says, it looks like they went to the trouble to cover up the left over pedal slots on the pedal board. A nice custom job.
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basilh


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Post  Posted 13 Jul 2007 3:20 pm    
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The guitar belongs to Ted Nesbitt N.I.S.G.A.
The chassis (AlMag casting) is too narrow for a Fender 2000, and too wide for a Fender 800.
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Donny Hinson

 

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Glen Burnie, Md. U.S.A.
Post  Posted 13 Jul 2007 4:38 pm    
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The chassis (AlMag casting) is too narrow for a Fender 2000, and too wide for a Fender 800.


Exactly.

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...although I think it's entirely possible for Fender to have built it.


Well, for one thing, by the time the pad had become a popular item, Fender was officially out of the pedal steel business. Also, I think that if Fender really had made it, they'd have used the right knobs (the little shorty chrome jobs from the Tele, the same as they used on the 400 and 800), and they'd have used a pedalboard that didn't have to have holes covered up, since they had a truckload of unused parts lying around for years, including pedal-board blanks.
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basilh


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Post  Posted 13 Jul 2007 4:54 pm    
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Donny all the things you say, AND why have a neck selector switch on a single neck guitar ?
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Robert Harper

 

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Alabama, USA
Post  Posted 13 Jul 2007 5:35 pm     FEFEFender
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Some great talent wnt into it what ever it wasd
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Herb Steiner


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Post  Posted 14 Jul 2007 5:28 am    
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I'll wager the al-mag frame was cut and re-welded, then repainted. Nice job, whoever did it.
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Ted Nesbitt

 

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Post  Posted 14 Jul 2007 6:39 am    
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Herb, You got it in one. This was a Fender 2000 It was imported into Ireland around 1968 by a gentleman who managed a bunch of Showbands in that era. There was only 2 pedal steel players in Ireland at that time, Basil Hendricks and Max Catherwood. Basil was playing an Emmons D10, and Max was playing a Fender 400. The promoter was hoping a lead guitar player from one of his Bands would learn to play the Fender, and use it on stage, but it never happened. It was eventually bought by a friend of mine. The sheer weight of the guitar was the reason why he decided to "downsize" He always liked the look of a steel with a pad, and so he got to work on the 2000. The frame was cut to size, and re-welded. The "C6th" section was removed, as were all the un-nessessary pedals and rods. A year later on, he built another "Fender" from the parts that were left over.I bought the guitar about 6 months ago. I am a great fan of Fender cable guitars. Untill I hear off, or see a Fender cable model with a pad, I can say I have a "ONE-OF Fender Pedal Steel Guitar

Thanks for your interest guys, and thanks to Basil for posting the photos and story

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John Bechtel


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Post  Posted 14 Jul 2007 9:47 pm    
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It seems reasonable to me to believe that the (AlMag Casting) is not a Fender~Original, but rather ‘Custom~Cast’! Stranger things have happened and that would also eliminate the need to plug up holes in the front-apron! [yes, no, maybe?] Also, the neck-selector type switch could be used for a variety of tone-capacitor values! [maybe,no,yes?] That's what I'd probably use it for!
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