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Topic: Stereo tube driven Reverb Pedal |
Jay Ganz
From: Out Behind The Barn
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Posted 12 Jul 2007 8:43 pm
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Sure looks interesting! Anyone checked one out? They're made in Denmark and ain't cheap.
More about them |
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Jim Bob Sedgwick
From: Clinton, Missouri USA
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Posted 13 Jul 2007 6:11 am
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Jay... Why not try the Sarno Black Box. Then all your effects will be tube driven. I wouldn't take twice the cost of a new one for mine. (On second thought, maybe I would ) |
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Jon Light (deceased)
From: Saugerties, NY
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Posted 13 Jul 2007 7:22 am
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Any idea if T-Rex & T.C. Electronics are one and the same company? They have some pedals (a delay pedal, in particular) that are clearly clones of one another although I'm not seeing a TC version of this tube reverb. And they are both Danish corps.
A couple of weeks ago Brad S. heads-up'd THIS T.C. reverb pedal that is pretty extreme although not tube. |
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Jay Ganz
From: Out Behind The Barn
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Posted 13 Jul 2007 9:19 am
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Same country....different companies I think.
The TC pedal looks nice also. I think Jon should
buy both of them and let us know which is better!  |
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Jon Light (deceased)
From: Saugerties, NY
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Posted 13 Jul 2007 9:37 am
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Consider it done. Should I chuck the Podxt or should I learn how to use it first, do you think?
These:
are the two pedals I noticed. They are definitely the same pedal so the companies are either related or have a licensing or subcontracting deal going on. |
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Mike Wheeler
From: Delaware, Ohio, USA
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Posted 13 Jul 2007 9:55 am
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Looks to me like they both use the same chassis supplier. _________________ Best regards,
Mike |
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Marc Jenkins
From: Victoria, British Columbia, Canada
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Posted 13 Jul 2007 10:31 am
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Jon,
They are not the same company, as far as I know. I used to work in a guitar store that carried both lines. T.C. Electronics have been around for many years, and the T-Rex stuff just started filtering into the North American market about 3 years back. T.C.'s new delay sure does look suspiciously similar to the Replica, which has been available for 3 or so years. The Replica sounds great, by the way! |
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Jon Light (deceased)
From: Saugerties, NY
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Posted 13 Jul 2007 10:46 am
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<center>THIS</center>
<center>and</center>
<center>THIS</center>
really cinch the deal---the prices & the descriptions. I don't imagine anything sinister. Just an arrangement of sorts. Strange to be competing in the same markets though.
I wish I could own (or try) every pedal that seemed cool. |
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Marc Jenkins
From: Victoria, British Columbia, Canada
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Posted 13 Jul 2007 11:31 am
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You mean:
THIS
and
THIS
Yes, they are VERY similar! |
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Brad Sarno
From: St. Louis, MO USA
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Posted 13 Jul 2007 12:37 pm
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Aha, that's very interesting. Sure look to be the same pedals. The TC that interests me is this even newer one, and it's much cheaper and perhaps even cooler:
http://www.tcelectronic.com/NovaDelay
http://www.sweetwater.com/store/detail/ND1/
Only $250 and it does more. The gripe I have with many delay pedals is that they digitize your dry signal. The guitar goes in, turns from A to D, processes everything, and the spits out D to Analog. Not that it's a huge issue, but it always feels nice to me to keep the dry signal pure and analog, not subjecting it to low-voltage, jittery, mediocre digital conversion and processing. That's one reason I like the DLS Delay so much:
http://www.stevesmusiccenter.com/DLSEchoTAP.html
The DLS is real good to use on the fly, and it is purely analog with regards to the dry signal. The digital echo is merely blended back in with it in the analog domain. The only reason I'm not currently using the DLS is because my wife took it for her pedalboard.
But I must say that I've been pretty happy with my Line6 Echo Park pedal. For the money it's lots of fun. I do want to check out this TC Nova Delay and Reverb though.
One comment on this T-Rex tube reverb. I did hear a local boutique dealer say that it was a great sounding pedal, but remember that most all "tube" pedals are not really running the tube at high voltage where you get all the good benefits out of a tube. They generally have a transistor circuit to handle gain and drive and simply run the signal thru a starved tube to introduce some friendly harmonics. Not a bad thing, but for that price, I wonder how great it is.
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Marc Jenkins
From: Victoria, British Columbia, Canada
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Posted 13 Jul 2007 1:02 pm
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I've heard really good things about these, too. Analog delay with tap tempo!!
Look here! |
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Jay Ganz
From: Out Behind The Barn
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Posted 13 Jul 2007 3:28 pm
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Yeah Brad....believe it or not, that Steve's Music Center who carries alot of those high end pedals
is about 20 minutes from here.
T-Rex says:
"A built-in 300 volt power supply takes the whole effect to the next level – powering a T-Rex tube that adds a voluminous, earthy warmth to incredible detail and spacious true stereo." |
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Brad Sarno
From: St. Louis, MO USA
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Posted 13 Jul 2007 7:11 pm
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Wow, very cool. My bad on the assumption that it was a low voltage unit. Now that thing is looking quite tempting.
Brad |
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Joe Shelby
From: Walnut Creek, California, USA
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Posted 14 Jul 2007 1:44 am
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Hey Kids,
SIB! is gearing up to put out a new version of the
red Echodrive. The main improvement is the all important tap tempo switch (they call it "Slam"). Additionally, there's an input jack for your volume
pedal (which would be great, because in my particular
case, it sounds much better after the vp) which could be another way to control delay time. Though when I think about it that might create problems using it for steel, which is all I use it for. This pedal
runs the tube at full voltage. It has no tone control, but automatically cuts the highs as repeats
descend into oblivion.
I have no stock in SIB!, but I've been using an older
red Echodrive and I really love the tone of the delay.
Possible con: it has a large footprint, but that's because the power supply is internal, and as compared
to the other pedals mentioned here, it might not be so big afterall.
Just wanted to further confuse those looking for a high quality delay...
ps--Rick Hamel is a good guy if/when you need support.
Joe. |
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