Who is the steeler with Linda Ronstadt- 1974
Moderator: Shoshanah Marohn
- Dave Harmonson
- Posts: 1817
- Joined: 21 Dec 2006 1:01 am
- Location: Seattle, Wa
- Contact:
The close-ups of the right hand on Silver Threads sure look like BE to me. Have you noticed that over the punches before the G chord the bass holds the A? It seems like every bass player in bar band history thinks he has to walk down through it. I always wondered how they all learned it wrong the same way.
- Jim Peters
- Posts: 1481
- Joined: 29 Dec 2003 1:01 am
- Location: St. Louis, Missouri, USA, R.I.P.
- Contact:
Nice clip, but I like this one even better than the record!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f78bKXzALXo&mode= related&search=
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f78bKXzALXo&mode= related&search=
Carter,PV,Fender
- Fred Shannon
- Posts: 3363
- Joined: 27 Sep 2002 12:01 am
- Location: Rocking "S" Ranch, Comancheria, Texas, R.I.P.
- Contact:
- David Doggett
- Posts: 8088
- Joined: 20 Aug 2002 12:01 am
- Location: Bawl'mer, MD (formerly of MS, Nawluns, Gnashville, Knocksville, Lost Angeles, Bahsten. and Philly)
Thank the stars for country-rock and Linda. I'm just glad I was alive during that time to fall in love with her along with millions of others. Looks like BE to me on that prison gig, but who cares which one of the steelers it was who was lucky enough to play with her. And all those horny male prisoners and her in that little short dress. Whoa!
If you blow your whole day and listen to all those Rhonstadt videos like I did, you will eventually run into the mind blowing remix of Linda in the '70s doing You're No Good and Amy Winehouse in '07 doing I'm No Good.
If you blow your whole day and listen to all those Rhonstadt videos like I did, you will eventually run into the mind blowing remix of Linda in the '70s doing You're No Good and Amy Winehouse in '07 doing I'm No Good.
- Jack Stoner
- Posts: 22087
- Joined: 3 Dec 1999 1:01 am
- Location: Kansas City, MO
- Lee Baucum
- Posts: 10326
- Joined: 11 Apr 1999 12:01 am
- Location: McAllen, Texas (Extreme South) The Final Frontier
-
- Posts: 231
- Joined: 8 Jan 1999 1:01 am
- Location: San Francisco CA , USA
-
- Posts: 1470
- Joined: 10 Aug 1998 12:01 am
- Location: Hermitage, TN USA * R.I.P.
-
- Posts: 3879
- Joined: 4 Aug 1998 11:00 pm
- Location: Hendersonville Tn USA
-
- Posts: 12505
- Joined: 4 Aug 1998 11:00 pm
- Location: Spicewood TX 78669
- Contact:
It's refreshing to see Linda in shoes. When I worked for her in '68 she would perform barefoot.
She is a helluva singer, no lie. Got me started in the music biz as well.
And Ed Black. What a great dude he was. Miss him to this day, died WAY too young.
She is a helluva singer, no lie. Got me started in the music biz as well.
And Ed Black. What a great dude he was. Miss him to this day, died WAY too young.
My rig: Infinity and Telonics.
Son, we live in a world with walls, and those walls have to be guarded by men with steel guitars. Who's gonna do it? You? You, Lt. Weinberg?
Son, we live in a world with walls, and those walls have to be guarded by men with steel guitars. Who's gonna do it? You? You, Lt. Weinberg?
- Fred Shannon
- Posts: 3363
- Joined: 27 Sep 2002 12:01 am
- Location: Rocking "S" Ranch, Comancheria, Texas, R.I.P.
- Contact:
I certainly don't doubt it's the Big E on the Silver threads and golden needles post, but I don't think it's him on the Jim Peters post of Blue Bayou.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f78bKXzALXo&mode=
That's probably Dan Dugmore.
Phred
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f78bKXzALXo&mode=
That's probably Dan Dugmore.
Phred
There are only two defining forces that have offered to die for you; Jesus Christ and the American GI!!
Think about it!!
Think about it!!
-
- Posts: 3009
- Joined: 1 Dec 1998 1:01 am
- Location: LA,CA
- Jim Peters
- Posts: 1481
- Joined: 29 Dec 2003 1:01 am
- Location: St. Louis, Missouri, USA, R.I.P.
- Contact:
Warford watched the clip again, although he said he clearly knows who was there and who wasn't, since he obviously was...and says there is no doubt at all it's Myrick on steel. I don't doubt him - a Mensa guy, with a degree in medicine and a trial lawyer. His memory for old gigs and sessions is astounding. He doesn't want to argue with anyone about it, but it is what it is.
Buddy sort of implied he was the steeler, but didn't make a definitive statement. So I'll stick with the facts as presented by the guy who played with Ronstadt regularly, and knew which gig I was talking about without even seeing the video (I didn't even know what gig it was when I asked, I just described the stage).
Buddy sort of implied he was the steeler, but didn't make a definitive statement. So I'll stick with the facts as presented by the guy who played with Ronstadt regularly, and knew which gig I was talking about without even seeing the video (I didn't even know what gig it was when I asked, I just described the stage).
No chops, but great tone
1930's/40's Rickenbacher/Rickenbacker 6&8 string lap steels
1921 Weissenborn Style 2; Hilo&Schireson hollownecks
Appalachian, Regal & Dobro squarenecks
1959 Fender 400 9+2 B6;1960's Fender 800 3+3+2; 1948 Fender Dual-8 Professional
1930's/40's Rickenbacher/Rickenbacker 6&8 string lap steels
1921 Weissenborn Style 2; Hilo&Schireson hollownecks
Appalachian, Regal & Dobro squarenecks
1959 Fender 400 9+2 B6;1960's Fender 800 3+3+2; 1948 Fender Dual-8 Professional
-
- Posts: 3942
- Joined: 23 Dec 2005 1:01 am
- Location: Maryland, USA
Jim, I do not know either Emmons or Myrick personally--I have seen Emmons perform in person once, in 1984, Myrick never.
But if you consider that Buddy E. is kidding or mistaken about it being him in the video, and believe Warford's assertion that the steeler is Weldon M., I offer the following for your consideration:
I am under the impression that you may have a copy of the Winnie Winston and Bill Keith book, "Pedal Steel Guitar". There's a photograph on page 55 of Hal Rugg and Weldon on the Grand Ole Opry stage. There's another book, I believe not now in print, "Pedal Steel Guitar: A Manual of Style" by Terry Bethel, Jimmie Crawford, John Hughey, and Weldon Myrick, compiled and edited by Winnie Winston (1980). This book consists of Winnie Winston's interviews with each of those players and tabbed examples of their playing techniques. The same photograph appears in the Weldon section of that book, on page 89, captioned with a date of 1974. If you look at that photo, I think you might have to agree that the person in the 1974 video cannot by any stretch of the imagination be Weldon Myrick!
But if you consider that Buddy E. is kidding or mistaken about it being him in the video, and believe Warford's assertion that the steeler is Weldon M., I offer the following for your consideration:
I am under the impression that you may have a copy of the Winnie Winston and Bill Keith book, "Pedal Steel Guitar". There's a photograph on page 55 of Hal Rugg and Weldon on the Grand Ole Opry stage. There's another book, I believe not now in print, "Pedal Steel Guitar: A Manual of Style" by Terry Bethel, Jimmie Crawford, John Hughey, and Weldon Myrick, compiled and edited by Winnie Winston (1980). This book consists of Winnie Winston's interviews with each of those players and tabbed examples of their playing techniques. The same photograph appears in the Weldon section of that book, on page 89, captioned with a date of 1974. If you look at that photo, I think you might have to agree that the person in the 1974 video cannot by any stretch of the imagination be Weldon Myrick!
Last edited by Brint Hannay on 16 Jul 2007 10:41 am, edited 1 time in total.
Brint, I thought the same thing intially - but then I saw other pictures of Myrick (I can't recall all the locations) and some looked strikingly similar to the video. Apparently his weight varied abit, and he did grow facial hair at times. Now, if Buddy clearly says "Bob's memory has failed him - it was me, and here's what I recall about it..." I'll call Bob back and tell him I'll drive him to the doctor...
No chops, but great tone
1930's/40's Rickenbacher/Rickenbacker 6&8 string lap steels
1921 Weissenborn Style 2; Hilo&Schireson hollownecks
Appalachian, Regal & Dobro squarenecks
1959 Fender 400 9+2 B6;1960's Fender 800 3+3+2; 1948 Fender Dual-8 Professional
1930's/40's Rickenbacher/Rickenbacker 6&8 string lap steels
1921 Weissenborn Style 2; Hilo&Schireson hollownecks
Appalachian, Regal & Dobro squarenecks
1959 Fender 400 9+2 B6;1960's Fender 800 3+3+2; 1948 Fender Dual-8 Professional
-
- Posts: 3879
- Joined: 4 Aug 1998 11:00 pm
- Location: Hendersonville Tn USA
-
- Posts: 8173
- Joined: 3 Jan 2002 1:01 am
- Location: Buffalo, N.Y.
- Contact:
Jim, your wrong, Its Buddy Emmons.
Last edited by Kevin Hatton on 14 Jul 2007 8:09 am, edited 1 time in total.
-
- Posts: 3879
- Joined: 4 Aug 1998 11:00 pm
- Location: Hendersonville Tn USA
- Mark Eaton
- Posts: 6047
- Joined: 15 Apr 2005 12:01 am
- Location: Sonoma County in The Great State Of Northern California
- Jerry Hayes
- Posts: 7489
- Joined: 3 Mar 1999 1:01 am
- Location: Virginia Beach, Va.
Weldon's as big (well, as tall, not as big around) as Hoss Cartright, he'd never be able to get into one of Buddy's shirts. That's NOT Weldon!!! Obviously Jim you've never seen Weldon in action. He's as tall sitting down as a lot of 'em are standing up!....JH in Va.
Don't matter who's in Austin (or anywhere else) Ralph Mooney is still the king!!!
Guys, I'm not debating this - I'm just saying the only guy who was actually there (on stage, near the steel) and has made a straightforward statement says it was Weldon Myrick on that gig. I'm afraid I know him too well to mistrust his information. Buddy mentioned missing the shirt...but never really said it was him. Why not? Why didn't he say "it was me."???
I'm just trusting a viable source presenting the facts. Everyone else seems to be going on their opinion based on pictures or something, when the steeler is in view for a nanosecond in the video. So oddly, I guess all the Buddy-voters are saying Warford is a liar because their view of the brief apearances during the video make them more qualified sources than someone who played on that gig and several others with THAT group of musicians.
I'm just trusting a viable source presenting the facts. Everyone else seems to be going on their opinion based on pictures or something, when the steeler is in view for a nanosecond in the video. So oddly, I guess all the Buddy-voters are saying Warford is a liar because their view of the brief apearances during the video make them more qualified sources than someone who played on that gig and several others with THAT group of musicians.
No chops, but great tone
1930's/40's Rickenbacher/Rickenbacker 6&8 string lap steels
1921 Weissenborn Style 2; Hilo&Schireson hollownecks
Appalachian, Regal & Dobro squarenecks
1959 Fender 400 9+2 B6;1960's Fender 800 3+3+2; 1948 Fender Dual-8 Professional
1930's/40's Rickenbacher/Rickenbacker 6&8 string lap steels
1921 Weissenborn Style 2; Hilo&Schireson hollownecks
Appalachian, Regal & Dobro squarenecks
1959 Fender 400 9+2 B6;1960's Fender 800 3+3+2; 1948 Fender Dual-8 Professional