YouTube: Kaki King on lap steel

Post by **Brad Bechtel** » 13 Sep 2006 9:10 am

Interesting use of looping effects with lap steel. I'd guess she's using C6th tuning if I had to guess. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h8EKCAX-DBY

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Randy Reeves · Post by **Randy Reeves** » 13 Sep 2006 9:20 am

nice clip. good use of a loop effect.
playing all the parts of a lap steel(and any instrument for that matter) has always been a trick up my sleeve.

Andy Sandoval · Post by **Andy Sandoval** » 13 Sep 2006 10:21 am

Very cool, looks like she was flat pickin?

Lynn Oliver · Post by **Lynn Oliver** » 13 Sep 2006 11:16 am

I think she's using a thumbpick.

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Gerald Ross · Post by **Gerald Ross** » 13 Sep 2006 11:24 am

The laying down a groove and jamming on it for 30 minutes is not really my kind of music.

But, if she can reach young kids with her music and spread the word about the lap steel, then more power to her.

Give her time. Eventually she'll learn to play "Sand".

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George Keoki Lake · Post by **George Keoki Lake** » 13 Sep 2006 11:37 am

Well, it starts out from nowhere and ends nowhere. Kinda interesting, but far too repetitive.

Randy Reeves · Post by **Randy Reeves** » 13 Sep 2006 12:04 pm

one of the pitfalls of multiple loops is the redundancy. eventually there is too much. and too much is not good; as the coolness loses cohesion and the intent becomes muddy.

huh?

Alan Brookes · Post by **Alan Brookes** » 14 Sep 2006 7:04 pm

This clip is also interesting. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jLnCNBfGvlM

Randy Reeves · Post by **Randy Reeves** » 15 Sep 2006 4:49 am

I like this example more. the previuos video seemed so out of context.

Gary Anwyl · Post by **Gary Anwyl** » 15 Sep 2006 7:55 am

It looks like it would be fun to try playing a lap steel with a loop effect. Is there a decent, inexpensive loop effect pedal that lets you lay down three or four loops in real time?

Stephan Miller · Post by **Stephan Miller** » 15 Sep 2006 9:06 am

The Boss DD-20 Giga Delay has a good reputation-- up to 23 seconds per layer of looping capability...$180 new & another $25-30 for the power supply. Then there's the much more popular & expensive Line 6 DL-4, which is versatile in other ways but more limited as a looper-- plus it has well-documented tendencies to break down/crap out.

I'm not sure there's a good looper less expensive than the Boss unit...I'll wait & learn from the voices of experience...

Randy Reeves · Post by **Randy Reeves** » 15 Sep 2006 9:14 am

I have and use the Boss GiGa delay mentioned.it cost a bit over two hundred a few years ago.
possibly the price has gopne down,as is the norm.

the Line 6 Looper is very popular too. dont know that price.

the giga delay is pretty easy to operate. I have a hard time reading tech manuals, but this delay unit is fairly easy to use.

I like it because I mianly use it for different delays. one can design a delay then lock it in for future use. there are four settings for save. very handy.

Ive yet to get a great slapback. sure miss my old analog pedal.
the giga delay also has many presets that one can alter and save. from tape delay to reverse..yes, it plays in reverse, one of my favoruite settings.
there are dials that can incrementally alter the settings. very cool.

go for it.

Andy Volk · Post by **Andy Volk** » 15 Sep 2006 10:49 am

Compared to her innovative and mind-boggling percussive playing on a standard guitar this stuff is a big yawn IMHO. THe loop effects are mildly interesting but it's all very rudimentary; she's not even damping behind the bar. Give her a few years and I'll bet she'll be playing some amazing lap steel.

Bill Creller · Post by **Bill Creller** » 15 Sep 2006 1:05 pm

It's different alright enough. I'm not a fan of a lot of effects in steel guitar music. A SMALL touch of reverb brings the guitar to life, and I dont think it needs much more than that.

Matt Lange · Post by **Matt Lange** » 17 Sep 2006 2:43 pm

as i said on my other post where i posted the same video

, i really like Kaki's music, and i love the lap steel stuff. I do agree that the loops can get old, but i don't think she drags it on too long, and she usually plays the majority of her shows on acoustic, with 2 or 3 song on the looped steel. She's definately a little "out there", but i dig it.

Jimmy Smith · Post by **Jimmy Smith** » 17 Sep 2006 3:34 pm

Pretty girl, good at lap steel; that's way hot.

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Paul Osbty · Post by **Paul Osbty** » 18 Sep 2006 2:10 pm

That's very typical of what "loopers" do. Her rhythm isn't very precise, though. Comes off pretty clumsy.

Drew Howard · Post by **Drew Howard** » 18 Sep 2006 2:18 pm

Pretty impressive! Music that moves forward. She finds her own way on lap or six-string.

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