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Chuck Morel
From:
Pottersville, New York
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Posted 22 May 2007 3:06 am |
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Hello,
Can anyone explain how to change from Day set up to Emmons set up on a E9 neck. Is it just tuning?
Thanks
Chuck |
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Nic du Toit
From:
Milnerton, Cape, South Africa
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Posted 22 May 2007 3:51 am
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As far as I know the reference is normally to the pedal setup only......on the 'Emmons' set-up the raises on pedals 10 & 6 are on the 'A' pedal......with the 'Day' set-up the A & C pedals swith positions, i.e. your 'A' pedal is then in the 'C' pedal slot and Vice Versa.....hope this make sense. The actual tunings (levers, strings)are up to the individual player..
Nic du Toit
    
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Russ Tkac
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Posted 22 May 2007 4:08 am
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| You may need to change the knees as well if you raise and lower the Es on the left. |
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Ray Minich
From:
Bradford, Pa. Frozen Tundra
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Posted 22 May 2007 5:43 am
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| I found that trying to press pedal A, whilst engaging left knee right, asked my ankle to do things it was not designed for... |
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John Daugherty
From:
Rolla, Missouri, USA
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Dan Burnham
From:
Greenfield, Tennessee
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Posted 22 May 2007 11:25 am Day & Emmons
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Chuck,
The guys are right about the pedals. Now it may affect your "motion" regarding how you have trained your knee's to work with your current copedant.
I played the "Emmons" and went to "Day" when I started playing Zane Beck's tuning. Julian Tharp used a "KindaType" Day Modification.
Personally, I like that Day better but I practice both.
You will here it argued both ways which on is the best to use. Answer: whichever one works for you and is the most comfortable for what changes you want to do.
I suggest you give it try.
Dan
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Bill Mayville
From:
Las Vegas Nevada * R.I.P.
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Posted 23 May 2007 2:21 pm By By Day
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Hi Chuck
If you have a nice guitar ,fairly new,
you will not have a problem with the A pedal,
and the D lever .The design in the first place would have been rejected by the pro's.
Ask any of them.
The location of the levers was a problem on the
MSA of the 70's.
At least for me.The newer guitars have pretty much worked that out.That's why it is so important to
try out one before buying.
The only one I could not try out was my new Jackson.
It came in ,like any of the nice ones.
Hopefully you can adjust your's to fit you.
Bill Mayville (pedalcrazy@taylortel.net)
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Jerry Hayes
From:
Virginia Beach, Va.
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Posted 24 May 2007 8:34 am
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All you have to do is leave the 5th string raise alone on both the A & C pedals, then disconnect the other pulls on both of those pedals, pull out the rods making sure you mark down which hole they came out of the changer end. Then on pedal one you'll put the rod which came out of the hole for the 4th string through the raise hole on for the 10th string. If there are multiple raise holes make sure you put it through the same one. Then take the rod which was on your 10th string on the 3rd pedal and put it through the 4th string hole, also make sure it goes through the same hole as it did when it was on the 1st pedal. If your raises and lowers of your E strings (4 & 8 ) are on your left leg you'll need to make sure that the raises are on LKL and the lowers on LKR. If they're on the right knee it doesn't matter.......JH in Va.
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Mark van Allen
From:
Watkinsville, Ga. USA
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Posted 25 May 2007 3:26 pm
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| Depending on your guitar and personal setup, you may also have to change a few little tweezes like the amount of throw on the "A" and "C" pedals- take note of how far they each move when actuated and try to switch that. (Most guitars need a bit more travel on the C pedal). The knee levers are likely a bit different in length of travel as well. Carefully adjusting that should help get it very comfortable. |
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John Bechtel
From:
Nashville, Tennessee, R.I.P.
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Posted 25 May 2007 9:47 pm
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When bought my new D-10 Derby in Dec. 05 I wanted to try the John Hughey setup and he uses the Day (C)(B)(A) configuration. I had been playing the Emmons (A)(B)(C) confiuration since back in the 50's, but; I thought what the hay, it' just a matter of getting your coordination straight! So, I ordered my new guitar with the Day/Hughey setup. (C)(B)(A) on the floor and also reversed LKL & LKR. I fooled with that arrangement for (5) full months, but; never was able to make it work for me, so; I took it back to Derby and had it redone! The first time I played on it, I felt comfortable again! I know everyone has their own preference, but; just consider that the whole switching routine might have to be done twice, if you can't make it work for you! Good luck, in whatever you deside to do, but; don't be surprised if it just isn't right for you!
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Mark van Allen
From:
Watkinsville, Ga. USA
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Posted 26 May 2007 7:11 am
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Oddly, years ago I switched setups when I would buy a new (to me) guitar that had a "different" setup on it, and found very little trouble adapting from Emmons to Day. Then some time back I fell off a roof and dislocated my ankle. I found the Day setup more comfortable after I healed up, (ankle turns better in one direction), but now I'm really uncomfortable trying to play an Emmons setup.
It's funny to me that I used to be able to switch-hit, and can't do it anymore. Maybe older brains are more set in concrete. |
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Ray Minich
From:
Bradford, Pa. Frozen Tundra
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Posted 26 May 2007 2:54 pm
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| older brains are more set in concrete. |
Sometimes I think mine's not only "set-in" but also "made-from"... |
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