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Steve Hamill
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Posted 15 May 2007 6:59 pm |
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Hi all!
I'm a new member but frequent looker here. I acquired an old ShoBud in a trade for a six string, but I'm not sure what I have. I thought I would post a few pictures and get some opinions. I can't play the thing a lick but I try anyway. I may end up selling it for another, and I'd just like to get an idea what it is and whats a fair price. It's easier to understand algebra than playing this machine.
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William Matthews
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New York, USA
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Posted 15 May 2007 7:10 pm
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| It looks to be a poorly refinished ProII, with the C6th neck taken off and replaced with a pad like an LDG. I hope you got the rest of the parts in the trade. If you're going to sell, please keep me in mind. Good Luck... Bill |
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Skip Edwards
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LA,CA
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Posted 15 May 2007 7:24 pm
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| Looks like a Crossover that someone's made into a SD10, with a replacement black and white fretboard. |
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Michael Douchette
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Gallatin, TN (deceased)
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Posted 15 May 2007 7:26 pm
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You have an old crossover model that's had the back neck removed, and the pedal bar cut down, removing three floor pedals. The hole to the left on the rear apron was where the crossover switch was. Can't tell from the pics, is there only one knee lever, or have more been added? It should have excellent tone, as long as it hasn't been whacked up too badly.
Looks very nice...
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Steve Hamill
From:
California, USA
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Posted 15 May 2007 7:43 pm
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Thanks for all the help guys. It does have excellent tone to my ear and seems to play in tune operate correctly.
There is only one knee lever on it, bit it looks like theres drillings for a lot more.
I didn't get any other parts with it except a case, a bar and some picks.
I don't think it's been refinished, but I could be wrong. It has beautiful birdseye maple on the front. |
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Bob Simmons
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Trafford, Alabama, USA
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Posted 15 May 2007 8:02 pm crossover
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| you definetely have a sho bud baldwin crossover built at music city manufacturing, most likely out on dickerson road and maybe by me - look for my initials on the underside - there are some tricks on tuning these things - be glad to help |
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Steve Hamill
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California, USA
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Posted 15 May 2007 8:10 pm
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| Wow Bob thats something. I cant find any initials, but I did find the numbers 7182 stamped into the wood and frame right next to each other. What would you guys say is a fair value for one of these? |
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Ernie Pollock
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Mt Savage, Md USA
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Posted 16 May 2007 4:22 am Yeah
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Thats for sure a converted Crossover, I have had a couple of those & would recognize it anywhere! It might not be quite so heave without the back neck & hardware. But the ones that I have had, had great tone. I would keep it & learn how to play a few licks. I started out on one of em.
Ernie Pollock 
http://www.hereintown.net/~shobud75/stock.htm |
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Charlie McDonald
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Posted 16 May 2007 4:31 am Re: What do I have here
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| Steve Hamill wrote: |
I'm a new member but frequent looker here. I acquired an old ShoBud in a trade for a six string.... |
You've only been here a day, but I hate you already. 
You're going to get offers to releive you of the steel, but it looks like a beginner's instrument extrordinaire.
Welcome.
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Mike Perlowin
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Los Angeles CA
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Posted 16 May 2007 8:27 am
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It looks like pretty cool guitar, but sooner or later (sooner) you're going to need more knee levers. You might want to think about having them added now rather than waiting.
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b0b
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Cloverdale, CA, USA
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Posted 16 May 2007 9:43 am
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I had a Sho-Bud Baldwin crossover, and I think that Skip, Mikey and Ernie are right. This is probably a cannibalized, refinished crossover. A look at the underside would prove it.
I'd place its current value at about $750. I wouldn't pay more than that for it.
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Chris LeDrew
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Canada
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Posted 16 May 2007 11:19 am
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The black endplates and frame alone give it away as a former Crossover model. Weren't they the only Sho~Bud models to have black endplates? I'm curious as hell to see the undercarriage.
One thing I'd bet money on...........it sounds heavenly. I had a Baldwin D-10 (non-crossover) from this era and it sounded HUGE. (The one I'm playing in my avatar.) I've been wanting one back ever since, but not an actual Crossover because of the headache. A nice SD10 with a Coop conversion would, in my opinion, spit out the most heavenly of tones.
That decal is not original, is it? I thought all Sho~Buds had the decal under the finish?
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b0b
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Cloverdale, CA, USA
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Dennis Olearchik
From:
Newtown, PA
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Posted 16 May 2007 4:32 pm does this help?
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Steve Hamill
From:
California, USA
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Posted 16 May 2007 4:40 pm
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| Hi Dennis. Thanks for posting those pix. |
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Dennis Olearchik
From:
Newtown, PA
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Posted 16 May 2007 5:16 pm
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Hi Steve,
These guys are as knowledgeable and HONEST as they come.
If possible, I suggest also adding some "close-up" pics of the finish so they can give you a realistic $ value of the guitar.
Best regards,
Dennis |
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William Matthews
From:
New York, USA
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Posted 16 May 2007 6:16 pm
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I suggest you just fall in live with the old Bud, and play it in good health..  |
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Steve Hamill
From:
California, USA
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Posted 16 May 2007 6:34 pm
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| I am strongly leaning in that direction William. I think I'll take it over to Mr. Bradshaw in Concord and have him give it a going over. The more I learn about this Steel Guitar, the more interesting it becomes. I'll have to seek out a teacher in the bay area. Anyone know of one? |
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Chris LeDrew
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Canada
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Posted 16 May 2007 11:26 pm
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It looks nice and neat under there............3 + 1 to keep you occupied for a good while. Hold on to it......you won't find anything that sounds better, I can assure you of that. 
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Per Berner
From:
Skovde, Sweden
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Posted 17 May 2007 4:30 am
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| I just love the color! |
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Dennis Schell
From:
Shingletown, Shasta county, Kalifornia
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Posted 17 May 2007 11:10 am
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What do you have? A beauty! Enjoy!
Dennis
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Stephen Gambrell
From:
Over there
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Posted 17 May 2007 12:44 pm
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| You got a beauty there, Steve. Three standard pedals and lower the "E's" with that knee, and you can play a lot of good stuff! Or, if you don't want it, you can send it to me... |
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Paul Redmond
From:
Illinois, USA
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Posted 20 May 2007 2:25 am
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Am I imagining this or is that pedal rack the same as a Miller rack?
PRR |
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Dennis Schell
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Shingletown, Shasta county, Kalifornia
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Posted 20 May 2007 11:31 am
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| Paul Redmond wrote: |
Am I imagining this or is that pedal rack the same as a Miller rack?
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Hmmmm I think you may be right. I played around with a S10 3&1 Miller one time and that does look familiar now that you mention it....
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Chris LeDrew
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Canada
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Posted 20 May 2007 4:33 pm
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That's the same type of rack that was on my Baldwin, although this one is of course cut down to fit only three pedals.
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