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Topic: Here's the problem with todays country |
Wade Branch
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Weatherford, Texas, USA
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Ben Jones
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Seattle, Washington, USA
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Joey Ace
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Hamilton, Ontario, Canada
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Posted 25 Apr 2007 11:38 am I Disagree, Wade |
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Raul is a great singer, and the songs are classic, but
WAY OVER-PRODUCED.
Might be OK for Vegas , or a Night At The Pops, but NOT Country, IMO.
Where's the Fiddle and Steel ? (the string section doesn't count)
This is like the stuff that turned me off country music a few decades back. I respect Perry Como, but he's not Country. |
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Wade Branch
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Weatherford, Texas, USA
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Posted 25 Apr 2007 12:42 pm
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I just thought it sounded nice,I realize it did'nt have steel and fiddle, but considering it was live and done in front of the whole "How do I look in these jeans" crowd at the CMA awards,I thought it sounded great and I love that Raul Mayo had the balls to sing (And I mean sing his A$$ off)some great old ballads.Of course these are all my opinions too. 
Last edited by Wade Branch on 25 Apr 2007 12:50 pm; edited 2 times in total |
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Herbie Meeks
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Arkansas, USA
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Posted 25 Apr 2007 12:45 pm YEP, everyone trying to get in the country act
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A good example,
How many have tried to get in the country act
when their genre went down hill ?
Herb |
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Bill Fuentes
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Garland, Texas, USA
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Posted 25 Apr 2007 1:38 pm
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| Wish all the Mavericks could have been up there too, I think he got the point across though. How about that jacket |
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Theresa Galbraith
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Goodlettsville,Tn. USA
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Posted 25 Apr 2007 2:30 pm
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| Sorry, that just won't sell today. |
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Don Discher
From:
Sault Ste Marie,Ontario,Canada
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Posted 25 Apr 2007 2:55 pm Raul
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| I'm die hard country but I gotta say I loved it,when you have a voice like that, it would be a shame to limit it to traditional country. |
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John Macy
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Rockport TX/Denver CO
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Posted 25 Apr 2007 3:08 pm
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I am a big Raul fan--great job and I love the strings...
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John Macy
Rockport, TX
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Mark Eaton
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Sonoma County in The Great State Of Northern California
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Posted 25 Apr 2007 3:08 pm
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There was steel in there...just not very prevalent...at all.
Raul is a heckuva singer,probably the closest guy we have today to the great Roy Orbison.
I don't agree with every song choice on the album I'm going to mention, but an outstanding CD which came out about three years ago is
Nashville Acoustic Sessions, with Raul on vocals, Pat Flynn on guitar, Andy Leftwich on mando and fiddle, Dave Pomeroy on bass, and Rob Ickes contributing some incredible work on the dobro.
They do a beautiful version of Hot Burrito #2, and Rob's dobro solo is IMO, one of the finest of his career. Speaking of Roy Orbison, they also do a nice version of Blue Bayou on that CD.
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Donny Hinson
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Glen Burnie, Md. U.S.A.
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Posted 25 Apr 2007 4:07 pm
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Oh no! Schmaltzy country, shades of the '70s.  No, we don't want to go back to that!!! I wasn't really crazy about that sound when Price had it...sort of "Hugo Winterhalter goes to Nashville."
Like Joey said, he's got a good voice, but the music was way overproduced. Also, sorry, but "For The Good Times" just ain't his type of song, I could'a done without that one. The other two were decent, if not very country. |
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David Higginbotham
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Lake Charles, Louisiana, USA
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Posted 25 Apr 2007 6:21 pm
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I agree with Joey as well!
Raul has a great voice, but as said in that classic Hank Williams Jr. video, "That ain't country!" |
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Dave Mudgett
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Central Pennsylvania and Gallatin, Tennessee
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Posted 25 Apr 2007 6:49 pm
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I always saw Raul as a sort of cross between Roy Orbison and Ray Price, and that's a good thing, to my tastes. I think there's a market for this kind of music. I still see plenty of people listening to Roy - lots of rockers get it, and that will sell there. Sure, it's not gonna appeal to the headbangers. But I'd infinitely rather hear this than a bunch of fake headbangers with cowboy hats on. If I wanna hear headbangin', I'll listen to real headbangers, thank you. Classic stuff is always in style - not necessarily as the mainstream, but there's room.
Now, I agree, I would have liked more fiddle and steel and less "violins" on the first two tunes, but the strings are perfect on Crying. Mebbe it's just force of habit, but it wouldn't sound right to me without them.
All IMHO, of course. |
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George Redmon
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Muskegon & Detroit Michigan.
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Posted 25 Apr 2007 7:30 pm
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| What no holes in his jeans? no dirty tee shirt? no stop sign size belt buckle? can't be! No i think it was just great, i really enjoy it. If you don't think this is country, then neither was Eddie Arnold, or Ray Price, or Jim Reeves. No it's country alright 100% and i beg your pardon...good music will always sell...and this is good music. |
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James Cann
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Phoenix, AZ
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Posted 25 Apr 2007 10:32 pm
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| Raul is a great singer, and the songs are classic, but WAY OVER-PRODUCED. |
As was Ray Charles's "I Can't stop Loving you," perhaps? |
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Richard Nelson
From:
Drogheda, Louth, Ireland
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Roual Ranes
From:
Atlanta, Texas, USA
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Posted 26 Apr 2007 3:15 am
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| Is this what they are calling "Quality Country" ? |
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George Redmon
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Muskegon & Detroit Michigan.
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Posted 26 Apr 2007 4:13 am
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| i don't like to put a label on anything, lets just say it's great music. Sure a steel in the mix would have been great, like emmons did on those wonderful sessions he did with ray pennington and the swing shift band. But look at Willies great stardust album, a million seller, and i don't recall a steel in it either. |
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Jim Sliff
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Lawndale California, USA
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Posted 26 Apr 2007 7:01 am
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I'll admit to having no idea who Raul Malo is, but if you played that song for me without any genre reference "country" would be the last thing I'd classify it as.
I honestly had no idea there was "country" that sounded so slick Vegas-lounge-act in nature still being played. I find Hung's massacre of that "Achy Breaky" thing much more entertaining, to be honest. At least I laughed. If Malo's piece is representative of the mentioned "Mavericks" that's a band I'll be sure to avoid.
I also seem to remember slick country like that a few decades ago, as someone else mentioned. I'd totally forgotten about it, as I thought it was the most over-produced, muddy stuff I'd ever heard. Like singers were trying to be Dean Martin without the hipness. Never could figure out why anyone called it "country".
I'm not a fan of modern country - but at least SOME of it sounds country to me.
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Theresa Galbraith
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Goodlettsville,Tn. USA
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Posted 26 Apr 2007 7:55 am
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Richard,
You're right, some people will buy it.
I honestly prefer & buy Rascal Flatts with steel!  I like that country music! |
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John Macy
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Rockport TX/Denver CO
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Posted 26 Apr 2007 8:00 am
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Hey Jim,
Don't sell The Mavericks short--they made some killer records...
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John Macy
Rockport, TX
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Steve Stallings
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Houston/Cypress, Texas
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Posted 26 Apr 2007 8:44 am
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Hey Jim,
Don't sell The Mavericks short--they made some killer records... |
No kidding... they did have some really cool hard core country stuff with steel. Let me dig out my CD's. I can't remember the names.
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Steve Stallings
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Bill Hatcher
From:
Atlanta Ga. USA
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Posted 26 Apr 2007 9:09 am Re: I Disagree, Wade
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[quote="Joey Ace"]
This is like the stuff that turned me off country music a few decades back. quote]
This is like the stuff that SAVED country music a few decades back, thank you Chet Atkins and Owen Bradley. Whether you like the sound of it or not is another story. |
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Eric Jaeger
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Oakland, California, USA
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Posted 26 Apr 2007 9:44 am
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Raul Malo does a *killer* version of Hot Burrito No. 1 on the Return to Sin City DVD.
I never liked the overproduced "countrypolitan" style either, but he's got a h*ll of a voice.
-eric |
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Mark Eaton
From:
Sonoma County in The Great State Of Northern California
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Posted 26 Apr 2007 9:48 am
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| Jim Sliff wrote: |
I'll admit to having no idea who Raul Malo is, but if you played that song for me without any genre reference "country" would be the last thing I'd classify it as.
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Jim, this video appears to be something that Raul and some "powers that be" wanted to take a shot at, for a TV show, and it's an abberation. Not something, as others have mentioned, that Raul is known for.
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