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Colby Tipton · Post by **Colby Tipton** » 19 Apr 2007 3:17 pm

I ain't even ckecked out every reply, I can tell you that I wouldn't expect anything but my money back. Thats it with what I have to say about the deal made.
I got something from a Forum member today, it ain't broke, it ain't gluded together and he don't have to feed me no BS and try to pull the Wool over everyones eyes about how it happened during shipping, I got it in good shape and it has no old fadded out glue on it. I'm gonna have to get off of this place if everyone starts taking sides with rip offs. Thank You

Colby

James Morehead · Post by **James Morehead** » 19 Apr 2007 5:59 pm

I'll donate shipping one way to Danny's. Email me the cost.

James Morehead · Post by **James Morehead** » 19 Apr 2007 6:01 pm

Ok, Hullihen is in for the skill & labor; Coops in for parts; Shannon's got strings covered; Stalling's in for $25; Collin's is in for $25; Fields is in for $25; Morehead's in for shipping to Hullihen's OR from Hullihen's one way. Hannay's in for $25; Miniear's in for $25; Nolan's in for $25; Smidtt's in for $25; Vinbury for $25; Henry's in for $25-------------

Ok, there's room for more!! Yeee Hawww!!

WHO ELSE WANTS ON THIS BAND WAGON???

DON'T BE SHY, NOW!!

Brint Hannay · Post by **Brint Hannay** » 19 Apr 2007 6:49 pm

Count me in for $25 (Just tell me where to send it and it'll be there!). And major kudos to Danny and Coop for their amazingly generous offers. Thank goodness steel players are such a tight-knit community! There is some good in the world....

Tommy Minniear · Post by **Tommy Minniear** » 19 Apr 2007 7:14 pm

Mark me down for $25.00 and let me know where and when to send it.

Tommy Minniear

David Fields · Post by **David Fields** » 19 Apr 2007 8:22 pm

I am a young steel forum member (since January 07') but I can see that I will part of this for a long time.

Gregg Thacker · Post by **Gregg Thacker** » 19 Apr 2007 8:38 pm

Have you contacted a Lawyer yet? A skunk will show his true colors. As another forumite had stated earlier, this is truly a Steel Guitar community and when some one on this Forum has a problem immediatly other forumites come to the rescue! A SUPER group of fine folks!!

Gregg

mike nolan · Post by **mike nolan** » 19 Apr 2007 9:03 pm

I'll kick in 25 bucks to Danny.... let me know how to Pyapal him.....

CrowBear Schmitt · Post by **CrowBear Schmitt** » 20 Apr 2007 12:24 am

SK should take the Bud back, reimburse Frenchy & thus resolve the affair
if such is not the case, i'll also put in 25 $ for the rehab
Danny is top notch & so are Jagwires

Mark Vinbury · Post by **Mark Vinbury** » 20 Apr 2007 4:47 am

Since the seller is also from Rhode Island I'd like to see this made right.
Count me in for $25.

Brian Henry · Post by **Brian Henry** » 20 Apr 2007 6:10 am

SK should take the Bud back, reimburse Frenchy & thus resolve the affair
if such is not the case, I'll also put in $25 for the rehab

David Ziegler · Post by **David Ziegler** » 20 Apr 2007 7:01 am

Maybe there's more to the name SKIP than meets the eye?

John Coop · Post by **John Coop** » 20 Apr 2007 7:07 am

Sho~Bud only made so many of these "Professionals" and we need to save every one of them that we can. COOP

Charlie McDonald · Post by **Charlie McDonald** » 20 Apr 2007 7:09 am

Frenchy, I guess now you have to decide if that's the guitar you really want, that will be a joy to play and not a reminder of a less-than-good deal.

Do the offers suggest it is worth it?

I wouldn't know a push-pull from a Push Me Pull You, but if it's your dream machine....
Good luck, hoping for a good outcome.
Great community here.

Marc Jenkins · Post by **Marc Jenkins** » 20 Apr 2007 8:17 am

The support offered here is really inspiring, everyone! If I wasn't tapped, I'd be in for a donation, too.

Marc

Brian LeBlanc · Post by **Brian LeBlanc** » 20 Apr 2007 8:48 am

- know when you hit a good note & the hair stands up on your arms?

- thats, how i feel after reading all this!

- (may help that after gig last nite & went to pick up neighbors at Dulles airport & got home at 2:30!)

- Now see, this is why I felt safe buying the Pro

!

- ...I can cover the $'s

- shobud@msn.com = dedicated Bud man

- still thinking SK's gonna wake up

- Course, this Prof's got some bad

- but gettin a whole lotta good "Karma"!

James Morehead · Post by **James Morehead** » 20 Apr 2007 8:54 am

for SK--"for I've just destroyed the world, I'm living in."

James Morehead wrote:Ok, Hullihen is in for the skill & labor; Coops in for parts; Shannon's got strings covered; Stalling's in for $25; Collin's is in for $25; Fields is in for $25; Morehead's in for shipping to Hullihen's OR from Hullihen's one way. Hannay's in for $25; Miniear's in for $25; Nolan's in for $25; Smidtt's in for $25; Vinbury for $25; Henry's in for $25-------------

Ok, there's room for more!! Yeee Hawww!!

WHO ELSE WANTS ON THIS BAND WAGON???

DON'T BE SHY, NOW!!

Ben Jones · Post by **Ben Jones** » 20 Apr 2007 8:59 am

still thinking SK's gonna wake up

um..no offense but i wouldnt hold my breathe on that one. Its been my experience that dishonest or immoral people seldom "wake up". I'd love to be proven wrong but I dont think i will be.

I too must say, hats off to an amazing bunch of cats willing to help you out. Top notch folks here.
Jagwires on now, and will be stickin with em in the future.

Scott Denniston · Post by **Scott Denniston** » 20 Apr 2007 10:19 am

Brian, John Coop makes a very good point. They won't be making any more of those Professionals. Every dime you put in it will be worth it. While you're at it have someone refinish it. Mine started out with the tobbaco reddish-brown finish that was hiding a beautiful birdseye maple. Hundreds of birdseyes and highly figured wood. That's a valuable guitar when it's properly restored and to my ear one of the very best sounding ever. Post pics of it when it's done please. I don't think Skip has much of a future on this forum & I'd think that's a giant loss for him wether he realizes it or not. Make lemonade!

Bill Hatcher · Post by **Bill Hatcher** » 20 Apr 2007 11:41 am

Put me down for $25. You have a Paypal account?? If so just email me your account name.

Casey Lowmiller · Post by **Casey Lowmiller** » 20 Apr 2007 12:25 pm

I could pitch in $25 as well!!!

Alan Brookes · Post by **Alan Brookes** » 20 Apr 2007 1:41 pm

I'll throw in another $25. Just let me know where to send the check.

Jonathan Shacklock · Post by **Jonathan Shacklock** » 21 Apr 2007 1:58 am

I ain't even ckecked out every reply...

Is anyone else getting uncomfortable with this?

I think it's pretty clear that Skip at the very least made a mistake. I don't think it's at all certain that he deliberately sold Frenchy a broken instrument.

A possible scenario that also fits the evidence:

The Ballad of Skip and Frenchy

Skip plays the instrument for six years with no knowledge the crack developing underneath. At one stage some kind of badly applied lube or laquer (nicotine+ blindly sprayed WD40?) has dripped down across the entire front panel (not just near the crack) and has collected along the crack - it doesn't look like any attempt to fix anything. When Frenchy requests photos Skip takes one by pointing the camera up underneath, he's still unaware. To quote Ben: "you'd have to know it was there and really be looking for it to find it from that picture". I would go further and suggest that the flash photography actually exaggerates the crack. Even at the point where he breaks down and packs the guitar he could be acting entirely in good faith, albeit without the thoroughness and professionality you might expect from a dealer.

The guitar is additionally damaged in transit. Not the first time we've heard of this.

A day or two later he is contacted by a VERY angry Frenchy claiming there is a crack 16" long (is that what you see in the photo people?). Skip's immediate conclusion its that it has been damaged in transit - after all there was definitely no 16" crack in that guitar - and he offers to pay half the repair cost quoted. The relationship deteriorates from there and Skip, angered by what he sees as wrongful accusation from an aggressive Frenchy, ultimately does the WRONG thing and refuses to refund the guitar.

This story isn't the truth either but it IS one that fits the facts presented so far. I'm a little surprised that so many forumites are quick to see one side of it.

I don't know Skip but I did buy some Joe Wright tapes off him about a year ago through the Forum. Against HIS advice I sent him cash. Now in my experience an entirely dishonest man will take a profitable opportunity to be dishonest, especially when there is no way he can get caught and the stakes are low. Well Skip was honest that time and I got my tapes. Is this the same person who deliberately misrepresents a broken guitar for $1500 knowing there will be photographic evidence of his clumsy attempts to glue up cracks?

Maybe Skip has fallen on harder times and got more desperate. Maybe he is mentally impaired. Maybe he has no understanding of how a guitar can be bust underneath and yet sound so beautiful on top. Maybe. The point is, I don't know any more than you do. Even Frenchy sounds more willing to give Skip a second chance than some of you guys, what does THAT say about our so called brotherhood? I'm not knocking the kind offers to bail Frenchy out.

Skip, swallow your pride and do the right thing. Even if this has all gone too far and you've been slandered, you still need to take that guitar back and refund Frenchy.

PS I know, I know, someone has always has to be the Henry Fonda... or is it Tony Hancock... ?

PPS Seriously though. Someone really DOES have to be the Henry Fonda.

Curt Langston · Post by **Curt Langston** » 21 Apr 2007 4:20 am

This story isn't the truth either but it IS one that fits the facts presented so far. I'm a little surprised that so many forumites are quick to see one side of it.

Good lord man! What are you thinking? It is one thing to give someone the benefit of the doubt, but not in this case.

Someone really DOES have to be the Henry Fonda.

No. We do not need any more Henry Fondas. Or Jane Fondas............One of each is more than enough............

Look again at the pics. This crack was there before shipping!

That fact that the seller states that "this is my only reply" is also and indicator that he has "washed his hands" of the deal.

He'll never be able to sell another "piece" on this forum!

Every time he tries to buy or sell, we should simply link this thread into his thread.

He's outta here.......................

SK, hope it was worth it to you. You're done here. Say goodnight!

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