Ebay steel

Peter Freiberger · Post by **Peter Freiberger** » 15 Apr 2007 7:29 am

Anyone know what brand of steel this is?

http://cgi.ebay.com/2-Neck-Pedal-Steel- ... dZViewItem

Peter Freiberger

T. C. Furlong · Post by **T. C. Furlong** » 15 Apr 2007 7:47 am

It looks like a couple of different brands parts have been included. The short keyheads are pretty weird, especially on a full length body. I emailed the seller asking for a photo of the undercarriage. Before seeing any more photos, I'd say it was made by a DIY builder or hobbyist. And the seller has approx. 20,000 negative feedbacks!!!
TC

Farris Currie · Post by **Farris Currie** » 15 Apr 2007 7:57 am

You bet,

Watch the feed backs, SCAREY

might get burned BAD

farris

TRAP TRULY · Post by **TRAP TRULY** » 15 Apr 2007 8:07 am

The fretboards appear to be of a Franklin.

Gary Lynch · Post by **Gary Lynch** » 15 Apr 2007 8:28 am

"Bask in the glory of this amazing Pedal Steel guitar as you impress all of your friends with such a magnificent instrument.

We do not know the make or model of this fine instrument, but we do know that the tone quality is highly impressive."

The sellers are named 'BargainLand'. They survive on hype.

Lonnie Zsigray · Post by **Lonnie Zsigray** » 15 Apr 2007 11:05 am

Who in their correct mind would bid that much on a POS like that.Especially given all the negatives that people have indicated.LOCO

Casey Lowmiller · Post by **Casey Lowmiller** » 15 Apr 2007 11:17 am

It's up to $760.00!!!

I can't believe people have bid it up that high with only 1 picture. Not to mention the extremely non-descriptive ad. Don't forget all the neutral feedback & negative feedback.

Perhaps it might be a good one...then again perhaps not. It's not worth the gamble...at least not with my money.

Casey

Mickey Adams · Post by **Mickey Adams** » 15 Apr 2007 11:34 am

BARGAINLAND!........
BEWARE......Horrible feedback from thousands of dissatisfied customers....(Im one)
They wouldnt know how to put it together, much less WHAT or where to plug it in...But hey...IT SOUNDS MAGNIFICENT.....yeah.....

Mickey Adams · Post by **Mickey Adams** » 15 Apr 2007 11:44 am

This Zum is in SD but the guy wants money in Bejing...
http://cgi.ebay.com/ZUMSTEEL-D-10-PEDAL ... dZViewItem[/url]

Farris Currie · Post by **Farris Currie** » 15 Apr 2007 12:33 pm

SEEMS this should go in HUMOR huh!!!!!

The ZUM will not be sent to the buyer until end of june,. but must send the money to CHINA at once because the seller needs the money NOW.

The UNKNOWN STEEL is going HIGHER AND HIGHER, can't even begin to believe anyone would buy a UNKNOWN STEEL LIKE THAT.

HECK THEY COULD BUY A SHO-BUD MAVERICK FOR 699.00
hehehehheheheheehehee

farris

steinar · Post by **steinar** » 15 Apr 2007 1:03 pm

As for the Zum advertised from China, the seller - Steve Takacs - is a well known and respected Forum member. I have visited Steve in China, and whooever buys his steel, will get an immaculately maintained Zum at a good price.
Steve has clearly explained why he needs the money now - to finance the purchase of another instrument.
Then it`s up to us if we would like to avail ourselves of the opportunity to get Steve`s Zum now with delivery in a couple of months. With waiting times what they are for new Zums, this does not seem unreasonable at all considering what you get here.
Steve is a good guy, a good steel guitarist and he even plays steel with his own country band in Beijing.
If I didn`t have a love affair going with ZB`s, I would have picked this one up myself.

Rainer Hackstaette · Post by **Rainer Hackstaette** » 15 Apr 2007 1:19 pm

Mickey, Farris,

the seller of the ZumSteel D-10 from Enderlin, ND/Beijing, China is forum member Steve Takacs, an American who works as a teacher in China. During the summer months he visits with his family in the states where he also keeps some of his steels.

I have bought several items from Steve, including a D-10 Sierra Crown. Everything stated in that ebay ad will be 100% correct. If I didn't have too may steels already I would pick this one up in a heartbeat. Steve is an honest person and I trust him absolutely. Even though we've never met face to face, I consider him my friend.

Rainer

P.S. Sometimes it's not a bad idea to do a little research before hitting the submit button.

Farris Currie · Post by **Farris Currie** » 15 Apr 2007 1:37 pm

OK, I'M NOT THE SMARTEST KID ON THE BLOCK!!!!!

I do not associate EBAY With THE FORUM!!!!

Sure, STEVE is alright,BUT I HAVE NO WAY OF KNOWING
WHO THE SELLER IS ON EBAY.

Anyway if it had been on the forum,and said that then i would have taken the whole thing differently.

I PERSONALY Buy from FORUM MEMBERS, and DO NOT TRUST EBAY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

farris

Russ Tkac · Post by **Russ Tkac** » 15 Apr 2007 1:49 pm

Steve's ZUM is on the forum and for sale.

http://bb.steelguitarforum.com/viewtopic.php?t=107516

I've done business with Steve but he wants to sell the ZUM and has it here and eBay. He is a good guy if you want a ZUM.

Russ

Bo Borland · Post by **Bo Borland** » 15 Apr 2007 7:21 pm

The compact key head and changer look alot like Carter, not sure about the pedal bar and 2 of the legs. It does look like someone put Franklin fret boards on it.
I would like to see under the hood before I would bid.

Daniel J. Cormier · Post by **Daniel J. Cormier** » 16 Apr 2007 6:57 am

Run away as fast as you can!! That be a Wilcox's guitar and an early one at that.Chet is building some better guitars now days.

Steve England · Post by **Steve England** » 17 Apr 2007 8:51 am

I sell on E Bay all the time but common sense whould tell you to stay clear of sellers like this. Almost 800 negative feedback s in one month!!!!!! Yikes.

He obviously knows nothing about what he is selling and seems to care even less. Don't knock all E bay seller because of a few clowns

Brandon Ordoyne · Post by **Brandon Ordoyne** » 17 Apr 2007 9:44 am

Bad thing is that a beginner with no knowlege, and who hasnt been on the forum, would probably in fact buy this. Read their descriptions below. For one, they "do not assemble the items", Two, "We do not know the make or model of this fine instrument, but we do know that the tone quality is highly impressive." So you mean you dont assemble it, but you know the tone quality of it! I hate to say this, but I dont feel sorry for the guy who buys this one!

From the website:

Condition:
Bask in the glory of this amazing Pedal Steel guitar as you impress all of your friends with such a magnificent instrument.
Features:

Two Neck
20 strings (10 per neck)
Great sound
George L's E66 pickups
Hardshell case

[Dimensions: Approximately 33.5 in. x 11 in. x 4 in. (instrument part only, full height is unknown as we do not assemble the items)
We do not know the make or model of this fine instrument, but we do know that the tone quality is highly impressive.
Condition:
Item does not power on. Item appears to be missing; Documents. Item has some broken strings, and other minor damage. As with all liquidation products this is sold 'as is' and what you see in the photo is what you are bidding on.]

[/quote]

David Fields · Post by **David Fields** » 17 Apr 2007 5:03 pm

Speaking of Ebay fraud, and it made sense, but someone told me that to get the bidding price up that the seller of the item can actually have people that they know bid on the item to get the bid price up. The only problem there is if the friend of the seller gets stuck with the last bid, which most of the time the fraud bidder is out of the way by the time the last bid is given.

Dave

Curt Langston · Post by **Curt Langston** » 17 Apr 2007 6:03 pm

Speaking of Ebay fraud, and it made sense, but someone told me that to get the bidding price up that the seller of the item can actually have people that they know bid on the item to get the bid price up.

That is called shill bidding and if eBay finds out, they can suspend your account!

David Fields · Post by **David Fields** » 17 Apr 2007 7:00 pm

They should Curt, but I see a lot of junk like that on ebay. It goes on a lot. You see so much junk on there that you know shouldn't be selling for a price like that. I have contacted ebay on several items.

Dave

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