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John Fabian


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Post  Posted 5 Mar 2007 8:28 am    
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We will be demonstrating a prototype Alumitone pedal steel guitar pickup at the Dallas show. This technology is new to the pedal steel guitar. We will be looking for feedback from you the players.

Stop by and give us your feedback.
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richard burton


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Post  Posted 5 Mar 2007 12:08 pm    
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Does it glow in the dark...... Wink
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Roger Crawford


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Griffin, GA USA
Post  Posted 5 Mar 2007 12:31 pm    
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These aren't new to the six string guys, be interesting to see what's up for us steelers!
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Bill Hatcher

 

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Atlanta Ga. USA
Post  Posted 5 Mar 2007 2:28 pm    
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90% less copper windings. Low/High impedence. Current driven. This is pretty different stuff here than we are used to!

Anyone have any of the Lace Alumitone pickups in their standard guitars? How do they sound?
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Stu Schulman


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Post  Posted 5 Mar 2007 5:03 pm    
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Bill,I have a Lace in my electric sitar,It's a good pickup.
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Brad Sarno


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St. Louis, MO USA
Post  Posted 5 Mar 2007 6:00 pm    
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So John,

How do they sound on steel????

Do you have to radically re-approach your amp's EQ setting???

Do they make a widemount 10 string version???


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John Fabian


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Mesquite, Texas USA * R.I.P.
Post  Posted 6 Mar 2007 3:09 am    
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Really stiff bottom end without shrillness in the top end. Strong mids. Better string separation than any steel guitar pickup I've ever heard.

The amp settings are about the same as other pickups.

There will probably be some changes before these are put into production. Check it out for yourself.
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John Fabian


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Post  Posted 7 Mar 2007 9:14 am    
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ttt
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Dan Tyack

 

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Olympia, WA USA
Post  Posted 8 Mar 2007 10:37 am    
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John that looks interesting. Looking at the Lace guitar Alumitone pickups, it looks like they are smaller than standard pickups. Any chance of having a pickup that could be used as a second pickup without cutting up the neck?
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Calvin Walley


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Post  Posted 8 Mar 2007 7:23 pm    
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Alumitone ??? you gotta admit the name sounds cheap
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Bill Hatcher

 

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Atlanta Ga. USA
Post  Posted 9 Mar 2007 2:25 pm    
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Not really. The pickup is make of aluminum thats all.
The weight is really cut down on this design.
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Jim Sliff


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Lawndale California, USA
Post  Posted 11 Mar 2007 6:59 pm    
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As John implies, they are very precise sounding. Some like that kind of tone - for clean pedal steel it might work fine. Those who like some warmth or an edgier tone will probably not care for them...that's the take from the guitar versions of the technology.
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Per Berner


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Skovde, Sweden
Post  Posted 12 Mar 2007 2:58 am    
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John, will these pickups be available as replacements for anyone from Lace, or will they be exclusive to new Carters?
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John Fabian


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Post  Posted 12 Mar 2007 1:23 pm    
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Per Berner wrote:
will these pickups be available as replacements for anyone from Lace, or will they be exclusive to new Carters?

Distribution is undetermined at this time. Lace Music working with us to develop the pickup. We will keep you updated as more details get firmed up.


Dan Tyack wrote:
... it looks like they are smaller than standard pickups. Any chance of having a pickup that could be used as a second pickup without cutting up the neck?

Maybe, but there is a small transformer underneath that requires some of the height. It definitely won't work that way for a low-profile steel. (string height 1/2" off the neck)


Calvin Walley wrote:
Alumitone ??? you gotta admit the name sounds cheap

I'll pass your droll comment along to Don and Jeff Lace who hold that name as a trademark. I'm sure they'll find it as amusing I do.
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Donny Hinson

 

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Glen Burnie, Md. U.S.A.
Post  Posted 12 Mar 2007 1:32 pm    
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John, how well do they work with other passive controls? Does having a regular volume pot pedal or a tone control in the guitar circuit cause any ill effects? Do the values of these parts have to be tweaked to match the new impedances?
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Al Miller


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Waxahachie Texas
Post  Posted 13 Mar 2007 5:11 pm    
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Just My Two cents...
I Played the Guitar at the show that John
Had installed the pickup in ..
i have to admit i pretty much know nothing about the workings from one pickup to another so i have to Really rely on my ear.. i must say
John And the carter crew are on to something ..
i look forward to hearing one of the production models..
Again Just My 2 cents
Boo Miller
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Billy Carr

 

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Seminary, Mississippi, USA (deceased)
Post  Posted 13 Mar 2007 10:00 pm     p/u
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I'll be interested in trying one the new p/u's whenever there available. Is it considered a humbucker p/u?
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Fred Eddie-Quartey


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Illinois, USA
Post  Posted 14 Mar 2007 8:39 am    
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Hi John,

I have two questions:
Will the Alumitone fit in existing Carter necks?
Do these pickups come in single & double coil formats?

Thanks,

Fred.
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Jon Jaffe


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Austin, Texas
Post  Posted 14 Mar 2007 2:07 pm    
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I tried it at the Dallas show. The tone was very pleasing. What made it stand out to my ear was the even output balance from string to string. No adjustable pole pieces needed, and the same quality sound regardless playing barred or open.
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