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Brad Whittle

 

From:
Oklahoma, USA
Post  Posted 8 Mar 2007 7:24 am    
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Hello, I borrowed a pedal steel from a friend. After playing it for a little while I noticed the pedals weren’t bending the correct strings of a standard set up. I asked another friend about it and he said the guitar I have might have a Jimmy Day set-up, which he said means the A and C pedal have been switched.

My question is how hard is it to switch them back? Since this is not my guitar I don’t want to go blindly poking around under the guitar.

The guitar is an older MSA Semi-Classic.

I can post pictures after work if needed.
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Gil Berry

 

From:
Westminster, CA, USA
Post  Posted 8 Mar 2007 8:03 am    
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Depends on the guitar how hard it is to switch. But if you're not very familiar with a pedal steel, and IF YOU WANT TO KEEP YOUR FRIEND, I suggest you leave it alone.
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Brad Whittle

 

From:
Oklahoma, USA
Post  Posted 8 Mar 2007 8:08 am    
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My friend bought the guitar and never played it. He wants the pedals changed as well.
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Ray Minich

 

From:
Bradford, Pa. Frozen Tundra
Post  Posted 8 Mar 2007 8:09 am    
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Get ready to go on an adventure of a lifetime...
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Brad Whittle

 

From:
Oklahoma, USA
Post  Posted 8 Mar 2007 8:27 am    
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an adventure of switching pedals or learning the pedal steel? hopefully it's the latter.
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Michael Johnstone


From:
Sylmar,Ca. USA
Post  Posted 8 Mar 2007 8:33 am    
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Anyone with a smattering of mechanical apptitude need only take a look at the linkage and make the swap. 15 minutes if you're sharp - 1 hour if you're a bit thick or have to run to the store for the proper hex key. Some guys like the Day set-up. If not - dive in fearlessly.
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Larry Phleger

 

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DuBois, PA
Post  Posted 8 Mar 2007 10:14 am    
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I learned to play using the Day setup. Jeff Newman used it, and a lot of other top musicians use the Day setup. It works really well if you ever decide to go for a universal tuning in the future
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Brad Whittle

 

From:
Oklahoma, USA
Post  Posted 8 Mar 2007 10:42 am    
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I played the Day set up last night, after i found what it was. I might try it for a little while.

thanks for the tips.
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Gary Shepherd


From:
Fox, Oklahoma, USA
Post  Posted 10 Mar 2007 8:27 am    
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I've played both setups. I really don't prefer one over they other. They both make sense. Seems like more people play Emmons though.
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Stan Paxton


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1/2 & 1/2 Florida and Tenn, USA (old Missouri boy gone South)
Post  Posted 10 Mar 2007 10:45 am    
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And to some players, it don't make any difference from one time to the next. I watched Jimmy Day play a few years back in a small local music store that used to be here, and he would sit down at an Emmons set-up, play as good & effortlessly as if it were his own guitar Shocked I couldn't tell the difference in his playing from one set-up to the other.
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Gary Shepherd


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Fox, Oklahoma, USA
Post  Posted 10 Mar 2007 11:09 am    
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My point exactly. It's about knowing what the pedal or lever does and what sound that change makes.
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Kyle Everson

 

From:
Nashville, Tennessee
Post  Posted 10 Mar 2007 1:36 pm    
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You can make yourself familiar with the Day pedals by practicing your A+B to B rock-off with the B and C pedals on an Emmons setup. Obviously you would want to avoid hitting the 4th string. The levers would take some getting used to for me.
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Steven Black

 

From:
Gahanna, Ohio, USA
Post  Posted 10 Mar 2007 2:19 pm     switching pedal setups
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If you do not know how to reset the pedals then take it to a professional steel guitar person who can set it up for you, once you start pulling rods out and you forget where they go then you will have hours and hours of real fun trying to get it setup rightand you will end up paying someone to do it for you still, which will be more, contact Bobbe Seymour and ship it to him to have this done, and save yourself a lot of headaches.
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