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Topic: right endplate leg question. |
Steven Black
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Gahanna, Ohio, USA
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Posted 4 Mar 2007 9:26 am |
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| I am building a double 10 which looks pretty good so far, until I noticed that the right leg on the front right endplate seems to be not in line with the rear right leg, it is close and it seems to extend out towards the right corner further than most legs, I am curious if this could effect the way the pedal bar would attach to the other legs if one is off a few inches, how much is allowed to be off? looks as though the leg mount or block was not drilled straight, would appreciate any advise from other builders out there, this endplate was made by a professional steel guitar builder who is not around anymore, I can build my own endplate and do it right but I do not want to waste this one. |
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Donny Hinson
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Glen Burnie, Md. U.S.A.
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Posted 4 Mar 2007 12:28 pm
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A few inches off?! Well, that's certainly no good, and would probably look like crap from any angle. Sure, you could use it as is by modifying the pedal bar (making it longer), but then it probably wouldn't fit in the case. You could bend a leg, and then always use that leg in that position. But that's also not a good answer.
No, I'd want to either fix the endplate or replace it. Take it to a machinist and have him give you some suggestions. You might be able to drill out the threads and plug-weld it (using a plug or collar), and then re-drill and re-thread it.
If it's worth doin', it's worth doin' right! |
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Steven Black
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Gahanna, Ohio, USA
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Posted 4 Mar 2007 1:33 pm Endplate problem
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| Hey Donny, thanks for replying, your suggestion is probably the best solution to take it to a machinist and have it redrilled, I do need it right, for the pedal bar to match up correctly, I guess I should not have stepped back and noticed the problem, then it would not have been there, but I did notice it, I will post pictures here soon of this problem. |
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Bill Ford
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Graniteville SC Aiken
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Posted 4 Mar 2007 2:57 pm
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Steven ,
To add to what Donny said, I would take both plates so the angle could be matched. Heli-coil may be the answer, that way no heat = less polishing, lower cost.
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Steven Black
From:
Gahanna, Ohio, USA
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Posted 4 Mar 2007 3:39 pm reply to Bill Ford
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| Thanks Bill, you are correct I should take both endplates, I might take the guitar with me so they can see what it looks like when it is setup. |
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Brint Hannay
From:
Maryland, USA
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Posted 4 Mar 2007 8:04 pm
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| Steven, Have you made sure the threaded plug in the leg is in correctly? |
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richard burton
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Britain
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Posted 5 Mar 2007 12:05 pm
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When the leg is tightened up, it sits on machined surface.
This surface is produced by an engineering technique called 'Spot Facing'
You may be able to re-spot-face it again, at the required angle, using a flat-bottomed drill. |
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Brint Hannay
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Maryland, USA
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Posted 5 Mar 2007 12:38 pm
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Just to clarify--you probably have ruled this out already, but, as discussed in another recent thread, it is possible for the plug to become loose in the leg itself. It wouldn't take it being misaligned by very much to cause a couple of inches deviation at the other end.
How did you obtain this endplate? It's hard to imagine a professional steel guitar builder drilling an endplate wrong and still putting it on the market. But stranger things happen. |
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Donny Hinson
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Glen Burnie, Md. U.S.A.
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Posted 5 Mar 2007 12:54 pm
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Any leg defect, such as a bent leg, or a bad or crooked plug, should be very obvious as the leg is screwed in. Such defects cause the end of the leg to describe a large circle (or "wobble") as it's being tightened. If you can hold the very tip of the leg and screw it in easily, the problem is not in the leg or the insert. 
Last edited by Donny Hinson on 5 Mar 2007 1:42 pm; edited 1 time in total |
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Brint Hannay
From:
Maryland, USA
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Posted 5 Mar 2007 1:15 pm
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| Donny, That is so. |
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Steven Black
From:
Gahanna, Ohio, USA
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Posted 5 Mar 2007 7:33 pm Endplate problems
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| The plug in the leg is seated correctly and tight, Ed Naylor made the endplate and it does have a very slight bend in the middle but not enough to cause the leg to extend out like it does, the leg mount was machined wrong by looking at it, I am going to take both endplates to a machinist to have them checked and see if it can be corrected, the legs will go with them for point spread measurement at the top and at the bottom to see if they match, if the endplate can't be fixed then I will make a new one, this guitar is really looking good just need to get this correct, I am also looking for fret boards that have abalone inlays on it, thanks for sharing your ideas I will keep reading them, I was once told by a steel builder that you only get one chance at the leg mounts to make them right or you will have to try and build another endplate. |
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Steven Black
From:
Gahanna, Ohio, USA
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Posted 10 Mar 2007 2:23 pm endplate problems
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| Well I got it figured out on how to correct this problem, and I have already done it, and now it looks right. thanks everyone for the advise. |
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