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Gary Shepherd


From:
Fox, Oklahoma, USA
Post  Posted 19 Feb 2007 6:47 pm    
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I was just thinking... (it happens from time to time)

If you remove the changer from a Carter Starter and replace it with a modern triple/double changer, wouldn't you have a pretty much normal 10 string pedal steel? One that could be adjusted and could have the copedent changed?

I think it would be fun to try. Then again, maybe I should just try building another one from scratch if I'm going that far with it.
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Bob Carlucci

 

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Candor, New York, USA
Post  Posted 19 Feb 2007 7:50 pm    
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IMHO, by the time you take a Starter and upgrade it to anywhere close to pro model specs, you could easily buy a pro model...The Starter is ok, but it is NOT a pro model steel, and wasn't intended to be... bob
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Brandon Ordoyne


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Needville,Texas USA
Post  Posted 20 Feb 2007 2:17 pm    
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I agree..I was thinking of changing out my Carter Starter knee levers and replacing them with a pro set-up after they wore out (they made some real cuts there, if they could change just one thing, thats what I would suggest)...but changed my mind and just bought a pro model....it was well worth it...but then again, the Carter Starter did for me, what it was intended to do, and I was happy with it Very Happy and would recommend it for someone starting out who doesnt want to spend alot of money... Very Happy
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Paul Redmond

 

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Illinois, USA
Post  Posted 20 Feb 2007 8:15 pm    
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You can put any setup you want on a Starter. I have put 'short' Uni tunings on two Starters belonging to two friends near here. The changer "is not ever intended to be changed from the original factory setup" I was told. On one guitar I even moved the E changes to the opposite knee, and flipped the pedals to Day from Emmons on the other. Look closely at it. . .you'll figure it out. It can all be done in one evening.
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Jim Sliff


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Lawndale California, USA
Post  Posted 20 Feb 2007 8:53 pm    
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The couple I've played were so flimsy and "low-budget" feeling that wouldn't waste the time/money messing with one myself. It's a great unit for someone wanting to learn basic traditional steel. Anything beyond that, I'd look elsewhere.
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Chris Allen Burke

 

From:
Signal Hill, CA
Post  Posted 20 Feb 2007 9:04 pm    
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Also, the rod pullers are welded to the cross shafts. Change them too? Starting to sound like stone soup.

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Billy Carr

 

From:
Seminary, Mississippi, USA (deceased)
Post  Posted 21 Feb 2007 3:41 am     Carter Starter
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The Carter Starter is a great little guitar for someone that is just starting on steel and wants to learn without investing a lot of money. I highly recommend the CS for anyone wanting to try PSG. I sell them usually before they ever get to my steel shop.
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Paul Redmond

 

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Illinois, USA
Post  Posted 21 Feb 2007 7:56 pm    
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Chris - Even though the cranks are welded to the shafts, depending on the setup, shafts can be swapped for position in the frame when necessary to achieve better rod alignment. Offsets may also have to be bent into some rods. It's not great, but can serve to help someone learn. On one of the guitars I set up, the alignments came out pretty good, the other so-so. Keep in mind, that's using all stock factory parts. No custom stuff!! Carter won't sell replacement parts or additional parts for the Starter unless the originals were defective. It can be changed from the 'stock' factory setup though and that was the only point I was trying to make earlier.
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Kevin Hatton

 

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Buffalo, N.Y.
Post  Posted 21 Feb 2007 7:59 pm    
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Time is money. Upgrading a CS is a waste of time. No return on investment. Get a Pro model.
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