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Topic: do you hear music the same now |
Calvin Walley
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colorado city colorado, USA
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Posted 15 Jan 2007 7:51 pm |
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before i got hooked on steel, i heard music just like most do .
i would listen to the vocals and harmonie...but now i find myself hearing the count and changes in a song not paying much attention to the vocals and such
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Eddie Cunningham
From:
Massachusetts, USA
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Posted 15 Jan 2007 8:11 pm Hearing music ??
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| I think you will find that most steel players practice in their heads what they are listening to !! I know that when I listen to any country or Hawaiian song I play runs and chords in my head and try to learn the tune !! Good way to practice when you don't have your steel !! IMHO !! |
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Lee Baucum
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McAllen, Texas (Extreme South) The Final Frontier
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Posted 15 Jan 2007 8:24 pm
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I never have paid much attention to lyrics. I hear music and chord changes. I guess it's just the way my brain works. Back in my high school and college days, playing percussion in band, I heard chords and intervals in whatever we were playing. (I had started taking guitar lessons and learning to read music back in the 5th grade.)
There's no telling how many times I've played "Crazy Arms" over the years and I couldn't tell you the words to the song if my life depended on it. |
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b0b
From:
Cloverdale, CA, USA
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Posted 15 Jan 2007 9:32 pm
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I played country music for about 5 years before I even noticed any of the lyrics. WHOA!!! What a shocker. I didn't realize what I had goten myself into. 
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Calvin Walley
From:
colorado city colorado, USA
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Posted 15 Jan 2007 9:41 pm
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in a way it makes me think we are missing something by not hearing music the way most non playing folks do..
i guess its like everything else in life ...there always has to be a trade off...at least i'm not alone
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proud parent of a sailor
Mullen SD-10 /nashville 400
gotta love a Mullen!!!
Guitars that i have owned in order are :
Mullen SD-10,Simmons SD-10,Mullen SD-10,Zum stage one,Carter starter,
Sho-Bud Mavrick |
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Jim Walker
From:
Headland, AL
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Posted 16 Jan 2007 1:22 am
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Myself, I listen and anylize everything in a song. I listen for tempo changes, where the lyrics are and how they ryme, I seperate all the instruments in my mind and pay particular attention to the mix of the recording, and sometimes I can pick out who the players are on the session. There are times when I wished I wasn't a musician so I could enjoy a piece of music like normal folks.
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Ernie Renn
From:
Brainerd, Minnesota USA
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Posted 16 Jan 2007 1:33 am
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There's words to these songs, too?
I always thought the singing was vocal accompaniment.
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Tony Prior
From:
Charlotte NC
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Posted 16 Jan 2007 3:24 am
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although I too can relate to what Calvin is stating, for me the big change came when I played Bass behind a Grand Piano ( very fine player) in a Pentecostal Praise band for 6 years in the 90's. I had always focused on the rhythm section first but after that experience it all really came front and center.,
The Steel has brought me to paying closer attention to melody lines and while listening I invision where the melody phrases are on the Steel fretboard. Kinda like practicing in my mind,whats left of it.
Although I don't know this to be factual. and I am not a shrink, I am of the opinion that many musicians have a different sense when they see or hear things than someone who has never played a note, and doesn't care to. Artists create and look at things and hear things differently. They probably never stop thinking about creating.
I am thinking when a Musician reaches this point it is a very good sign for the Musician, but it may not be so good for the NON Musician wife !
Good topic Calvin..
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by the way, ya wanna hear a great melodic Bass player listen to Craig Nelson on the Brentwood Jazz "Love Knows" CD, Instrumental Praise tunes. This entire Cd ( Quartet ) is tops. |
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Rick Johnson
From:
Wheelwright, Ky USA
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Posted 16 Jan 2007 5:40 am
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I have a habit of charting the songs in my head
as I listen, I have to make myself listen to the melody
and lyrics.
Rick
www.rickjohnsoncabs.com |
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Michael Johnstone
From:
Sylmar,Ca. USA
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Posted 16 Jan 2007 6:45 am
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| I started to listen to music seriously and buy records in the late 50s and I heard all the parts of the music as a whole as I still can if I want. But back then before I picked up an instrument,music was magical. Elvis was magical,doo-wop was magical,ice cream changes were magical. When I got to playing guitar pretty good in the mid 60s and figured out where the skeletons were buried,it all kind of lost its magic and the rocket science turned into plumbing. Then I met a guy who was a little more advanced on guitar and he turned me on to jazz which - since I didn't quite grasp what was going on - was magical again. So no matter how far I progress there's always a receding horizon where things are mysterious and alluring and that's what keeps me hearing music in a fresh way - the way I did as a kid. |
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Charlie McDonald
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out of the blue
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Posted 16 Jan 2007 7:22 am
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I think steel changes how you listen to music and how you create it.
But I still insist that pedal steel evolved from early country vocals, the changing lines, and somebody wanted to capture that on an instrument. Therefore I'm still listening to melody, often accompanied by words, and trying to 'sing' the other parts on steel.
For me, it's another step in finding my voice.
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Chris LeDrew
From:
Canada
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Posted 16 Jan 2007 9:04 am
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Isn't the steel most famous for its ability to express emotion similar to a human singing voice? The haunting crescendos, subtle vibrato in just the right spot, the hard and smooth edges of particular passages........... if a steel player can channel the emotion of a particular vocal/lyric combination in a performance and match that emotion to the steel part, I think that's a match made in musical heaven. That's why (for me) great steel players shine the brightest when they are working beside a great singer. In this traded inspiration the magic happens. Charlie and Lloyd are a perfect example of this collaborative spirit.
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