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John McGuire

 

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Swansea,Illinois, USA
Post  Posted 3 Jan 2007 11:36 am    
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I know that to most of you this is really a dumb question but I don't know the answer.
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Greg Simmons


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where the buffalo (used to) roam AND the Mojave
Post  Posted 3 Jan 2007 11:49 am    
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Courtesy the good folks at Carter...

All-pull: http://www.steelguitar.com/steelmap/maptop/changer.htm

Push-pull: http://www.steelguitar.com/steelmap/maptop/ppchangr.htm
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John McGuire

 

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Swansea,Illinois, USA
Post  Posted 3 Jan 2007 12:00 pm    
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Greg, thank you now I know, well at least I think I do!!
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James Quackenbush

 

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Pomona, New York, USA
Post  Posted 3 Jan 2007 12:56 pm    
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John,
When you own a P/P, and then you own an all pull steel, and you set each one of them up to your liking , believe me THEN you will know the difference !!... Wink ....Jim
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Jim Harper

 

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Comanche, Oklahoma, USA * R.I.P.
Post  Posted 3 Jan 2007 1:38 pm     P-P or all pull
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I agree with James, on this.I have played steel guitar since 1946 and didn,t know any thing about P-P til i traded for one at Dallas a few year,s ago. I have 2 all pull guitar,s and 1 P-P and 1 pull-release you can tell the difference espically in the all pull guitar,s==Jim Harper
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Whip Lashaway


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Monterey, Tenn, USA
Post  Posted 4 Jan 2007 9:22 am    
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John, There are no dumb questions! There are from time to time dumb answers! Anyway, I own 2 all pulls and 1 push pull. The main thing to keep in mind is the raise override on the PP. If you use any splits, they won't work on a PP. I usually have to be reminded of this the hard way whenever I play the PP. I'm definitly a creator of habit and I'll go for a split and wonder what the heck is going on. Oh yea, no splits!!! Whip
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David Biggers

 

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Texas, USA
Post  Posted 4 Jan 2007 10:23 am    
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OK no dumb questions??
Heres one. Why is it everone says a push-pull has THAT SOUND! I know back to that subject again.
I have a 2006 Carter that sounds great. I had a 98 Carter D-10 that sounded great. I had an MSA Classic that sounded differant but good. But I have heard some of the old shows and everyone is playing Sho-Buds and Emmons and they do sould very special. Now I see a lot of the Pros playing Fessys. It must be what you like vs what is best??
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T. C. Furlong


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Lake County, Illinois, USA
Post  Posted 5 Jan 2007 5:15 am    
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David, I don't think P/P enthusiasts (like myself) think that non-P/Ps don't sound great. They just sound different. In fact, in my experience, many P/Ps sound different from each other. And there are definitely great sound P/Ps and good P/Ps. Just like there are great sounding all-pulls and not-so-great sounding all-pulls. There is one top pro player that I know of who feels that he should avoid playing a P/P because it doesn't provide the element he wants in his signature sound.
TC
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Erv Niehaus


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Litchfield, MN, USA
Post  Posted 5 Jan 2007 7:48 am    
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Don't forget guys, we have another force to be reckoned with!

On the new Zumsteel, Bruce has come up with a "hybrid" changer that is a combination of the push/pull and the all pull.

I have my order in and expect about a hear and a half wait before I can try it out.
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Dave Diehl

 

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Mechanicsville, MD, USA
Post  Posted 5 Jan 2007 9:39 am    
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Regarding "that sound"..... the true-est definition of that can be determined from listening to Dickey Overbey play his P/P Rosie. Not saying other guitars don't sound good but that will explain it all.
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