Intonation practice CD and instructions

P Gleespen · Post by **P Gleespen** » 17 Aug 2004 8:47 am

bu-boing!

Just got mine in the mail. Thanks Bob!

Al Sato · Post by **Al Sato** » 18 Aug 2004 9:19 pm

This tool is simplicity itself, like all good ideas. But Bob had the idea and made it available to us. I'm using this for dobro, lap steel and voice. Very good ear/intonation training. Thanks, Bob.

Al

Bob Hoffnar · Post by **Bob Hoffnar** » 20 Aug 2004 5:40 am

I just got this report from Jeff Smith:
<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR>Bob,

I just thought I would drop you a line and let you
know that I'm finding the drone CD not only helpful for intonation
purposes,
but also just fun for practice. It's nice to have accompaniment to jam
along to and work out ideas with that isn't too complicated.

Thanks for taking the time to do this.

Jeff Smith
Angola, IN<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Thanks Jeff !

Bob

Bob Hoffnar · Post by **Bob Hoffnar** » 25 Aug 2004 6:09 am

I was talking to Paul Franklin about practicing intonation along to my drone CD and he thought it was a great idea so his Dad will be selling them for me at the Franklin booth in St. Louis.

I have plenty of them left if anybody wants me to ship them one before the convention.

Thanks, Bob

Lawrence Lupkin · Post by **Lawrence Lupkin** » 30 Aug 2004 11:22 am

To the top!

Bob Hoffnar · Post by **Bob Hoffnar** » 30 Aug 2004 11:28 am

I was just gigging with a classical violin player who said her conservatory has just started using drones to help students practice intonation.

Bob

Bob Hoffnar · Post by **Bob Hoffnar** » 7 Sep 2004 7:19 am

This just in from Mattt Hutchinson in the U.K.:
<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR>Hi Bob,

The cd turned up yesterday, many thanks.

My initial thoughts after an hour or so of practice with the cd are that it really tunes your ears in and makes you listen a lot harder. Obviously as you're less concerned with what you're playing (ie. not trying anything too
clever) it gives you a chance almost to sit back and listen to yourself.This is obviously great for intonation but also, I found, for tone.

When I first started playing steel about 4 years ago I was lucky enough to have a couple of lessons with BJ Cole. He basically said that it doesn't matter what you play if the
tone isn't up to scratch. A simple phrase played with good tone is better than a series of great licks with no tone. I found that your cd is the perfect tool for just sitting down and playing slow, simple phrases and concentrating
purely on 2 things

a) Am I in tune?

and

b) Do I sound good?

I also imagine it'll be a great resource for playing more 'ambient' and
improvisatory stuff to as well.

Many thanks, definitely worth every cent.

Matt
<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Thanks Matt !

Bob

Gerald Menke · Post by **Gerald Menke** » 13 Sep 2004 6:05 am

For any of you who sing backup and play steel, if you want to get your singing intonation together, try singing against the drones, you won't believe your ears at first, it's even harder in some ways than getting playing in tune with the steel. I was practicing some of this stuff last night, just trying to eliminate the beats singing in unison with the first few drones was really challenging. Thanks be to Bob for this great tool.

Gerald

Bob Hoffnar · Post by **Bob Hoffnar** » 19 Sep 2004 7:17 pm

Buddy Charleton just picked up a stack of my intonation practice CDs for his students so you buy one from him if you are down his way.

Bob

Herman Visser · Post by **Herman Visser** » 28 Sep 2004 4:19 pm

Ha Bob, Sounds great!Wouldnt do any business on computar right now. Have a very sick machine from steelpadler site a few weeks back, Getting a new one at the end of the week.SO I will be sending you a check to night as soon as the finance dept. comes home tonight(wife)THANKS

Bob Hoffnar · Post by **Bob Hoffnar** » 28 Sep 2004 8:27 pm

Herman,
I'll keep an eye on the mail and get that Cd out to you pronto.

Gary Carpenter in Ft Worth,TX just ordered a stack of them for his students. Any of you guys in the metroplex area can take a lesson from one of the greatest players and teachers ever and see if the drone thing would help your playing.

Also thanks to all you pickers that are checking out the intonation CD ! I hope its turning out to be helpful.

Bob

Matt Hutchinson · Post by **Matt Hutchinson** » 29 Sep 2004 11:40 am

Hi Bob,

Never noticed before as I've mostly been using the single tones not the chords, but the cd you sent me has tracks 12 & 13 swapped (ie the A mag7 and Bmin7 are the opposite way round from where they are on the track listing). Doesn't matter as it's fairly obvious straight away but you might want to re-do the covers for any new ones you do.

I'm finding the cd really useful as I find I naturally play scales etc slower when I practice to the drones so both my pitch & accuracy of picking are slowly improving.

Bob Hoffnar · Post by **Bob Hoffnar** » 29 Sep 2004 12:37 pm

Matt,
Thanks for the correction. I'll fix the rest of them. I'm glad the drone thing seems to he helpful.

Bob

Lawrence Lupkin · Post by **Lawrence Lupkin** » 19 Oct 2004 9:13 am

It's also extremely effective for torturing your dog.

Skip Mertz · Post by **Skip Mertz** » 20 Oct 2004 1:37 am

Hi Bob, send me the Pay Pal info please. What is the Beta thing you were talking about? thanks Skip skipmertz@yahoo.com
Oh Yeah , what the Hell do we do with the rest of the band now!

Toby Rider · Post by **Toby Rider** » 20 Oct 2004 7:33 pm

Wow great idea to make a CD of chord drones! I've been using Band-In-a-Box to do the same thing.. A CD is probably easier to take around then a laptop computer

Bob Hoffnar · Post by **Bob Hoffnar** » 21 Oct 2004 6:30 am

Toby,
The thing that is different about the chord drones I have on the CD is that they are absolutely beatless. I had a computer/composer guy make them. They are in pure JI tuning. That makes it so you can clearly hear beating on every note in a scale. It brings calibrating your ears and hands to a different level.

Bob

Bob Hoffnar · Post by **Bob Hoffnar** » 23 Oct 2004 5:13 pm

Here is a picture:

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Bob Hoffnar · Post by **Bob Hoffnar** » 2 Nov 2004 8:20 am

My thanks to all you guys that have ordered the tuning CD. I have been getting a much better response than I expected. My girlfriend is taking care of any sales and shipping stuff for me while I'm on the road. I have plenty of them left if anybody wants to check it out.

Bob

Pat Carlson · Post by **Pat Carlson** » 7 Nov 2004 5:12 pm

Sent in Paypal order today,Thanks Bob.

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Howard Tate · Post by **Howard Tate** » 23 Nov 2004 1:55 am

Got the CDs from Bob, a good guy to do business with. He took time to answer a question by email, and was quite helpful.

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Bob Hoffnar · Post by **Bob Hoffnar** » 12 Dec 2004 5:26 pm

I just made a new batch of CD's if anybody else wants one.
So far the reaction has been great for the practice CD. Thanks so much to all you guys that ordered one.

Bob

Bobby Lee · Post by **Bobby Lee** » 12 Dec 2004 7:18 pm

I bought one. I listened to it at work. It was really boring!

no steel on it at all...

Willis Vanderberg · Post by **Willis Vanderberg** » 13 Dec 2004 3:01 pm

I bought one quite a while ago. best ten bucks I ever spent. I discovered I was playing just a tad flat all the time.
Great idea just in time for Christmas.

Bud

Sam White · Post by **Sam White** » 17 Dec 2004 10:33 am

Hi Bob I will be sending you a Check out tonight for the Cd.
Thanks Sam White