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Ariel Lobos


From:
Buenos Aires, Argentina
Post  Posted 23 Aug 2006 7:44 am    
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I'm going for my first recording session with my sho-bud,four pop songs...do you think is neccesary to change strings before that? I did it fifhteen days ago.....how many time before you think is the right time?.....thanks!
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Matthew Prouty


From:
Warsaw, Poland
Post  Posted 23 Aug 2006 8:38 am    
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Ariel,

Como estas? Opps hope there are no rules against Spanish here!

I read a lot about this and it varies from instrument to instrument, naturally. Someone had a chart that showed the trends in the studio of string changes. I read that most guitarist change their stings daily in the studio and acoustic guitars between every song. I found that hard to believe, but as you may agree everything here in So. America is streched as far as it can be. If I were you I would use that set you got on there unless you have been playing for 6 hours a day over the last two weeks. If thats the case I would change the one that get streched most. They are probibly the ones that are farthest from new.

Not sure where I saw that chart. Someone might chime in and let us know where it is.

M.

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Ariel Lobos


From:
Buenos Aires, Argentina
Post  Posted 23 Aug 2006 2:20 pm    
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Thanks Matt !!....i've been surprised to see your location,but after a look to your website i can imagine the reason....I guess you're married with a brazilian girl....am I right?...congratulations ...you have a nice family.
or maybe you are working in sao paulo but independient about the reason,You are my closer steeler in this world ha !
I think I'll use this strings set...if the guy in the control say something bad about it i'm gonna change it....i hope somebody show us that chart
regards
Ariel
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Jim Cohen


From:
Philadelphia, PA
Post  Posted 23 Aug 2006 2:57 pm    
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I thought some of the studio pros would weigh in on this one with advice but since they haven't, I'll offer my dos pesos.

The answer really depends on how much you have played on those strings since putting them on. One really should not say "change them every 2 weeks", or "every day", or "every month"; it all depends on whether you play a lot or a little and how fresh your strings still are.

But one bit of advice I would give you is NOT to change them IN the studio. They need time to stretch out and will be going out of tune on you for awhile once you put them on. You don't want to be constantly re-tuning in the studio, while the clock is ticking, or listening back to what you just recorded and having to re-record parts because you were out of tune due to stretching strings. I would advise that, if you think you might need to change them, then do it the day before the session and play on the new strings for an hour or so, and stretch and re-tune them a few times that day, then do your recording session the next day with more stable strings.

Just my opinion, FWIW.

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basilh


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United Kingdom
Post  Posted 23 Aug 2006 3:58 pm    
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This is a very good guideline by one who should know :- http://www.b0b.com/infoedu/steelstr.htm
Baz

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Matthew Prouty


From:
Warsaw, Poland
Post  Posted 24 Aug 2006 2:17 am    
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Ariel,

You are right on both accounts. I came down here to work and then got married. San Pablo is pretty nice. Its kind of a little like Lousiana, Texas and Oklahoma all mixed together. Maybe a little Mexico thrown in.

There are actually a few steelers here. I can vouch for only one other, and he is really top notch. His name is Adair Torres, and he is my teacher.

I would like to hear more about your experiences in Argentina. If you could tell me a little more about yourself in an email it would be appreciated.

M.
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Ron Page

 

From:
Penn Yan, NY USA
Post  Posted 24 Aug 2006 7:45 am    
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I was going to say, since it's pop songs, it won't matter.

Why not play it safe and change them all a day or two in advance. If you'd really rather not, at least slap on a new 3rd string; assuming E9th neck.

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Ariel Lobos


From:
Buenos Aires, Argentina
Post  Posted 24 Aug 2006 7:46 am    
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Thanks Jim and Basilh, I'm checking Paul Franklin's about change strings,great information ...Matt I'll writte you for mail.
regards
Ariel
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Alan Brookes


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Brummy living in Southern California
Post  Posted 24 Aug 2006 10:52 am    
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The last thing you want to do is change strings right before a session. After you change strings they need a while to settle in. You're inviting disaster to change strings on any type of instrument right before a session.
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Jack Stoner


From:
Kansas City, MO
Post  Posted 24 Aug 2006 1:13 pm    
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I used to work in a music store in Nashville ("Little Roy Wiggins Music City") and we would get a lot of session guitar pickers that would get new strings because they had a recording session the same day.

I would change pedal steel strings the day before if I were doing a session.
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Ariel Lobos


From:
Buenos Aires, Argentina
Post  Posted 25 Aug 2006 8:03 am    
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haha...thanks Ron...certaenly is rock/pop/folk...But I'm goin to put a few country licks on it!...most of the job is going to be pedal volume with long reverbs...thanks Alan and Jack...I guess one or two days before ,playing a little will be ok..
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Jody Carver


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KNIGHT OF FENDER TWEED
Post  Posted 25 Aug 2006 8:14 am    
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I changed my strings in the hotel room at the Clarion in St Louis in 2004 and as a result I couldn't keep my steel in tune. Those of you who were there obviously heard how poorly I played.
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Charles Davidson

 

From:
Phenix City Alabama, USA
Post  Posted 25 Aug 2006 8:37 am    
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Read an interview by my favorite dobro player Mike Auldridge years ago.He said in the studio he changed strings for each song he cut.Must work because I think he is the king of taste and tone on dobro.
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Terry Wood


From:
Lebanon, MO
Post  Posted 25 Aug 2006 9:34 am    
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I have found for me, it is best to leave them on if they still sound good. If you start changing at the last minute, you might find your guitar in and out of tune during the session, and this could lead to frustration city.

Zane Beck once told me that he seldom changed strings. He sounded pretty good on his recordings and live too!

"If it works don't fix it!"

GOD bless you!

Terry
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Jody Sanders

 

From:
Magnolia,Texas, R.I.P.
Post  Posted 25 Aug 2006 1:06 pm    
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I think Paul told me once that he put on a new set each week, and that some of the acoustic guitar players would change a set for each session. Especially in the studio, your strings have to be right on and sustain the note whereever played. I don't do much studio work anymore, but I change the 3Rd, 4th, 5th, and 6th string every week to avoid string breakage and to be on key. I put on a complete set each month, Jody.
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Alan Brookes


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Brummy living in Southern California
Post  Posted 25 Aug 2006 5:58 pm    
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I have about 60 string instruments. If I changed the strings regularly I would be bankrupt.
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