Who plays but doesn't gig?
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Who plays but doesn't gig?
I've been lurking in this forum for a couple of years and am in awe of the talent and big names that are represented here. In To be honest, it's intimidating for a total PSG neophyte such as myself. Are there regulars in this forum who play but only as a hobby and only in the privacy of their own home?
I guess I'm looking for a little "comfort in numbers". I'm ready to take the PSG plunge (again) but I don't realistically see myself performing publicly.
(I had a brief stint back in '80 with an MSA U-12 and Winnie Winston's book.)
I guess I'm looking for a little "comfort in numbers". I'm ready to take the PSG plunge (again) but I don't realistically see myself performing publicly.
(I had a brief stint back in '80 with an MSA U-12 and Winnie Winston's book.)
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Darrell, I still gig or do a session occasionally (every month or so), but there's also some really fine players here who hardly ever leave their house.
Everybody does pretty much what they want to do. But remember...that doesn't translate into "all the really good players are working", as some here seem to think.
Everybody does pretty much what they want to do. But remember...that doesn't translate into "all the really good players are working", as some here seem to think.
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Darrell
I'll try not to be long winded!!!
I played bars 69-72 no happyness there.
Then i played Church for about 15yrs.
Lots of good times there.
I played 2yrs.with THE HARMONETTES and worked all wk. in a machine shop.
for 16yrs now i have been taking care of a invalid wife,and my playing is here at home in my old machine shop.
I know lots of Piano players who can play the fire out of them and all they do is play at home.
My personal advice!!!
Have a decent steel and amp. be happy.
I have traded and traded,and its just a habit.
I had a uncle who traded cars and trucks almost everytime he went to town.
He would come home with a bigger pc of junk than he went to town in.
If you go to church,its a great place to play and people enjoy it.
Have fun my friend !!!!!!!!
farris
I'll try not to be long winded!!!
I played bars 69-72 no happyness there.
Then i played Church for about 15yrs.
Lots of good times there.
I played 2yrs.with THE HARMONETTES and worked all wk. in a machine shop.
for 16yrs now i have been taking care of a invalid wife,and my playing is here at home in my old machine shop.
I know lots of Piano players who can play the fire out of them and all they do is play at home.
My personal advice!!!
Have a decent steel and amp. be happy.
I have traded and traded,and its just a habit.
I had a uncle who traded cars and trucks almost everytime he went to town.
He would come home with a bigger pc of junk than he went to town in.
If you go to church,its a great place to play and people enjoy it.
Have fun my friend !!!!!!!!
farris
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Farris,
I'll try not to be too long winded too...
Been playing keyboards (piano, synth, organ) for 42 years. Grew up playing in church. From '80 - '86 played full time as a sideman - based out of Nashville. Walked away from it and moved back to Dallas get a "real" job. Now at the age of 46, I have job, wife, kids, house and a 5'1" Baldwin M baby grand. All keep me too busy to even think about playing outside the house (and frankly, I don't particularly want to). But, I'll never forget the few months I had that MSA and kick myself for not having stuck with it as a 2nd instrument. Now I'm just looking for an excuse to try the steel again but without feeling guilty for not wanting to necessarily leave the house.
Right at two years ago (and based on recommendations I got from the forum), I started to take the plunge back into the PSG and ordered a Carter Starter. But due to a bad experience with the order from Musicians Friend, I had to send it back and for whatever reason, I never replaced it. Now I'm ready to give it another shot.<font size="1" color="#8e236b"><p align="center">[This message was edited by Darrell Prichard on 27 July 2006 at 07:12 PM.]</p></FONT>
I'll try not to be too long winded too...
Been playing keyboards (piano, synth, organ) for 42 years. Grew up playing in church. From '80 - '86 played full time as a sideman - based out of Nashville. Walked away from it and moved back to Dallas get a "real" job. Now at the age of 46, I have job, wife, kids, house and a 5'1" Baldwin M baby grand. All keep me too busy to even think about playing outside the house (and frankly, I don't particularly want to). But, I'll never forget the few months I had that MSA and kick myself for not having stuck with it as a 2nd instrument. Now I'm just looking for an excuse to try the steel again but without feeling guilty for not wanting to necessarily leave the house.
Right at two years ago (and based on recommendations I got from the forum), I started to take the plunge back into the PSG and ordered a Carter Starter. But due to a bad experience with the order from Musicians Friend, I had to send it back and for whatever reason, I never replaced it. Now I'm ready to give it another shot.<font size="1" color="#8e236b"><p align="center">[This message was edited by Darrell Prichard on 27 July 2006 at 07:12 PM.]</p></FONT>
- John Coffman
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I am a beginner. I just play at home and at lessons and I do not plan to make a living at it. I just love steel and dobro music. My plan is to become good enough to join in at church, jams, and maybe a gig or two. I have started with no music training but I am slowly getting there. My job takes alot of time and is stressful detailed work. I use my time at the steel to flex my mind and body. I find a good hour twanging the strings helps me cope. It just comes down to if you love it enough to devote your time to it you will make it happen. There are lots of excuses we can use. I know I will never be a smoking steel player but if I can learn a few songs that bring joy to me or others I will have met my goals. A wise man once told me that you make time for the things that matter to you. If you love to play. Play Best of luck
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Thomas SD10 3/4,Thomas D10 8/5 and Desert Rose S10 3/4. Beginner
As Donny said above "gig or session" once a month on steel, do a few songwriter showcases with a good friend,I play mandolin or dobro with him mostly. I have a few students and find the role of teacher always makes my brain get off it's butt and when you see your student all of a sudden get the "light bulb just when on" look, its nice.
I spent my time on the road from 72-84,about 300 days a year. Played clubs,casinos,cruse ships,festivals and stadiums where I could not see the back of the crowd from my steel on the stage.
Now I think it's so cooooooooool when my dog curls up on the floor next to me in my little studio. I play and he sleeps.
It makes me remember why I started playing in the first place.
JE:-)>
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I spent my time on the road from 72-84,about 300 days a year. Played clubs,casinos,cruse ships,festivals and stadiums where I could not see the back of the crowd from my steel on the stage.
Now I think it's so cooooooooool when my dog curls up on the floor next to me in my little studio. I play and he sleeps.
It makes me remember why I started playing in the first place.
JE:-)>
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Emmons D10PP 8/4 -75'
Emmons SD-12PP 3/4
Zum SD-12 5/5 - 91'
74'Session 400
06'Nashville 112 x 2
w/Knob-Guard
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Darell,
I do not now, have never before, or have any intention in the future of playing for anything other than my own amusement.
I would be surprised to learn that even more than 25 to 30% of the people on this forum do play professionally.
I guess b0b or Bobbe would know more about that than I do, but when I used to do steel repair all the time, it was almost always for working stiffs just like myself.
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John Drury
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I do not now, have never before, or have any intention in the future of playing for anything other than my own amusement.
I would be surprised to learn that even more than 25 to 30% of the people on this forum do play professionally.
I guess b0b or Bobbe would know more about that than I do, but when I used to do steel repair all the time, it was almost always for working stiffs just like myself.
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- Greg Cutshaw
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Welcome back to playing Darrell. I lurk on a lot of forums. On many of them I don't know enough to contribute anything and on others I am pretty active. Since my kids are all grown now and I'm not coaching little league etc. I've had more time to kill. Lately I've just been recording at home and buying and selling gear for the fun of it. Playing the steel is fun again now that I don't have to haul it all around the state. It helps to have other hobbies and interests also so your mood is not all tied up into the ups and downs of just one thing.
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Greg<font size="1" color="#8e236b"><p align="center">[This message was edited by Greg Cutshaw on 27 July 2006 at 07:57 PM.]</p></FONT>
- Delvin Morgan
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Darrell,
I am a beginner, just over a year at the steel. I have played six string for over 30 years, and in the 70's we had a little bar band but I hated it. So I don't ever plan on giging any more, just play at home and at jams, jams are a lot of fun. And like some one else said, I play for my dog, who sings quite well with me, OK howls.
I am a beginner, just over a year at the steel. I have played six string for over 30 years, and in the 70's we had a little bar band but I hated it. So I don't ever plan on giging any more, just play at home and at jams, jams are a lot of fun. And like some one else said, I play for my dog, who sings quite well with me, OK howls.
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I have played for close to 60 years now and most of those times were spent 2 and 3 nights a week in clubs, etc. The last 8 years have been spent playing for nursing homes, care facilities and alzheimers units, 3 times a week. I have to say that the last 8 years of my life have been the most enjoyable for playing. The satisfaction gained cannot compare with the stress of the bar scene in any way. I highly recommend all of you who have the talent to make music on the PSG to spend your playing time sharing your gift with others who will appreciate it beyond your wildest dreams. It is not what you get out of life but what you can give to others that really counts. This is not about money, but what really counts, giving and sharing your God given talent with others.
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Hi Darell.> I have had a ball playing at home since i retired from full time music.About all i ever did.I quit a few times due to sickness.I got sick of it.But always went back on the road.I haven't played out for two years now but bought a new GFI Ultra two months ago.
These things are addicting.And the great thing about playing at home is no one requests Silver Wings.I would enjoy playing week ends again if i could get with a band that didn't play loud.LOL.Tracy
Tracy
These things are addicting.And the great thing about playing at home is no one requests Silver Wings.I would enjoy playing week ends again if i could get with a band that didn't play loud.LOL.Tracy
Tracy
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I don't do gigs anymore, but every once in a while I'll sit in with a band just for fun.
When the element of money (and therefore responsibility ) is removed, it becomes a matter of playing for the sheer love of it.
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Warning: I have a telecaster and I'm not afraid to use it.
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When the element of money (and therefore responsibility ) is removed, it becomes a matter of playing for the sheer love of it.
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Warning: I have a telecaster and I'm not afraid to use it.
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Hiya Darrell,
I am a semi-retired musician now although
I still get asked to sit in on some gigs
which is always flattering. I play at home
now mostly for my own amusement and make recordings. I also play for my girlfriend who loves the steel.<font size="1" color="#8e236b"><p align="center">[This message was edited by Mike Shefrin on 03 August 2006 at 11:21 AM.]</p></FONT>
I am a semi-retired musician now although
I still get asked to sit in on some gigs
which is always flattering. I play at home
now mostly for my own amusement and make recordings. I also play for my girlfriend who loves the steel.<font size="1" color="#8e236b"><p align="center">[This message was edited by Mike Shefrin on 03 August 2006 at 11:21 AM.]</p></FONT>
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I played for a living since ’67 and work gradually slowed down to where I haven't worked very many paying jobs since ’89 and ‘no’ paying jobs for more than 6-yrs. I do all my playing at home for my own Amazement and like to make my own simple Instrumental Tapes along with my own recorded Rhythm with either Flat-top Guitar or Baritone~Uke. If I had the opportunity to play out now, I'm not sure I could even get my equipment from the house to the SUV! But, I've managed to work the GOO a total of 4-yrs. with both Billy Walker and Stonewall Jackson. So, there are lots of pleasent memories working with them as well as several other Major Country Artists over the years!
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Where I live there is not much interest in steel guitar, I gigged for years though, but now just have a little group that does it every now & then + a few chruch gigs, but mostly I play here in my little steel guitar store with tracks, and I have a zillion of them. When I get wore out on steel I fire up my tenor sax & do that for a while, I will never quite playing till I can't physically do it anymore. I love music as well as any pro player out there & probably know more instrumentals than most of them!!
[I'll probably hear it for that last remark ]
Ernie Pollock http://www.hereintown.net/~shobud75/stock.htm
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[I'll probably hear it for that last remark ]
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- Larry Strawn
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Darrell,
I come from a family of "back porch" pickers. Just about every one played something [at home, or in church], I quess Out of all of them I'm the only one that's ever worked at it, [even part time], and over the years I met some folks who could have played anywhere, or with anyone, but chose to play at home by them selves, or with some friends on the back patio.
Go for it Darrell!!! The fun, and enjoyment is in the music and the doing,, not where!!!
Larry
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I come from a family of "back porch" pickers. Just about every one played something [at home, or in church], I quess Out of all of them I'm the only one that's ever worked at it, [even part time], and over the years I met some folks who could have played anywhere, or with anyone, but chose to play at home by them selves, or with some friends on the back patio.
Go for it Darrell!!! The fun, and enjoyment is in the music and the doing,, not where!!!
Larry
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Over the past 45 years, certain combinations of steel chords, notes, licks, passing chords, runs, just grab ahold of my heart and brain and stop me in my tracks.
Like that 1/2 A pedal move TB did in Together Again. I hear that, and it sounds so nice... I wanna be able to do that too, just for my own enjoyment and satisfaction, and to be able to play it when I feel like it.
So I study the works of TB, Jimmy Day, PF, BE, and all of the rest of the greats, and spend money on tab and lessons and video tapes and CD's in the hopes that one day I'll have down just a few of these neat note combinations.
I don't care if anyone else ever hears it.
Gigging is fun, but it's a lot of work too.
In an article Fred Layman wrote in one of the steel guitar magazines I purchased from b0b, written sometime in the '80's, Fred stated that he estimated that more than 80% of steelers were "non-gigging".<font size="1" color="#8e236b"><p align="center">[This message was edited by Ray Minich on 28 July 2006 at 10:15 AM.]</p></FONT>
Like that 1/2 A pedal move TB did in Together Again. I hear that, and it sounds so nice... I wanna be able to do that too, just for my own enjoyment and satisfaction, and to be able to play it when I feel like it.
So I study the works of TB, Jimmy Day, PF, BE, and all of the rest of the greats, and spend money on tab and lessons and video tapes and CD's in the hopes that one day I'll have down just a few of these neat note combinations.
I don't care if anyone else ever hears it.
Gigging is fun, but it's a lot of work too.
In an article Fred Layman wrote in one of the steel guitar magazines I purchased from b0b, written sometime in the '80's, Fred stated that he estimated that more than 80% of steelers were "non-gigging".<font size="1" color="#8e236b"><p align="center">[This message was edited by Ray Minich on 28 July 2006 at 10:15 AM.]</p></FONT>
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I'm fortunate to play pedal steel in a band with some steady gigs. But I'd say some of the home pickers here could whip my behind. I play out a lot, but I practice home a lot as well. I try to work on at least 5 or 6 new licks for the next show, and I go through exercises to keep up my accuracy and speed. I still consider myself a student of the steel guitar in a big way.
But I am like Jim - all my home playing is geared towards the gig. I'm just getting my stuff packed up here now for another road trip - it never gets old for me, playing pedal steel in a good band. But if I never had a band, I'd still be picking like a maniac at home.
But I am like Jim - all my home playing is geared towards the gig. I'm just getting my stuff packed up here now for another road trip - it never gets old for me, playing pedal steel in a good band. But if I never had a band, I'd still be picking like a maniac at home.
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I enjoy both performing and playing alone at home. On the steel tho I am still a ways away from going public with the racket I am making now. There is certainly NOTHING wrong with playing at home for yourself and it can definetly be rewarding and enjoyable. I think in order to get really good at your insturment tho, at some point it will be necessary to at least play with other real life musicians, not necessarily gig, but at least interact with other live musicians i real time. Timing, phrasing, when to lay out, backing a singer, etc. I'd be about one tenth the guitarist I am today (not that I am much)if I never left the bedroom with it. Thats still upcoming for me with the steel. Looking forward to giggin it someday ( I hear you steel players make the big bucks!), not looking forward to hauling it around tho.