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Alvin Blaine
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Posted 8 Apr 2006 10:54 pm |
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Well, I went to see the first show of the tour last night in Vegas.
Merle was on big time, said he was glad to be starting the tour in Vegas and that he has started quite a few things in Vegas.
He sang great and joked around more than I've seen him do in the past. He even sang happy Birthday to himself, then sang "I wish I was 30 again".
Joe Manuel is back playing guitar with Merle, but the one that stole the show was Norm.
Every time they would pass it around, when it got to Norm, he had the perfect tone and touch every time. How does he do it?
The other highlight of the night was Don Herron playing steel/fiddle with Dylan.
In the past year that Donnie has been with Dylan, it sounds like he become a favorite. He had more solos & fills then the other instruments and was really pushed up front in the mix. The steel was at the same volume out front as Dylan voice.
It was very cool to see and hear steel as the featured instrument with Dylan.
So I want to say thanks to Donnie for the great job, and for getting me in to the show.
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Jason Schofield
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Posted 8 Apr 2006 11:37 pm
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| I saw Dylan & Haggard last April in Detroit and it was just amazing. My only complaint was that the volume was too low when Merle played. When Dylan came on they cranked it way up. But both were just brilliant. I hope they come around here again this year. |
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James Cann
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Posted 9 Apr 2006 7:29 pm
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My wife and I enjoyed thoroughly Haggard's show last night in Phoenix. His personal presence and bearing is a show in itself, and his voice was in fine shape for a late-60's man. The band was first rate, although Norm Hamlet's 'voice' seemed more token than anything and who, also, seemed unfortunately positioned on stage, appearing a bit detached from the rest of the group.
As for Dylan, his band was also very good (I had wondered if he would have a steel player) with what they had but for himself, well, the best we can say is that we are of 60's vintage and have no idea of what Dylan has become. We couldn't understand a word he sang, save for "Mr. Tambourine Man" (the only song we knew), and even that was, in short words, a hatchet job.
I know Dylan's songs, voice, and phrasings have always been his own, but as I said, his evolution has passed us by.
Sad to say it, but we left early--and I might add, by no means the first to do so.[This message was edited by James Cann on 09 April 2006 at 08:33 PM.] |
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Darryl Hattenhauer
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Phoenix, Arizona, USA
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Posted 9 Apr 2006 7:58 pm
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Did Bob play "Summer Days and Summer Nights"? I heard it live a few years ago, and it's available on a lot of bootlegs. It's a stunning swing number, totally different from the original recording, and as unusual for him as I've ever heard. About 10 minutes long with about 8 minutes of guitar shoot out. He had two monster guitarist with him, the best two he's ever had. And Bob was playing guitar better than Robbie Robertson.
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"Drinking up the future, and living down the past"--unknown singer in Phoenix
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Mark Lind-Hanson
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Menlo Park, California, USA
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Posted 10 Apr 2006 8:25 am
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"Summer Days" is on the most recent Dylan album "Love & Theft." And it is safe to say it has been played at EVERY show he's done since the album came out, so it's pretty predictable, you're going to hear it if you go hear him at all. It IS one of the high points of the show, but it's also one of those things about his recent show that is usually a 99.9 chance of play (as are Like a Rolling Stone & All Along the Watchtower.)
I saw them a year ago in Oakland and I too was particularly impressed with Merle Haggard & his band. Most so by his spryness and his chops. And also the way Dylan's audience ate him up. |
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Darryl Hattenhauer
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Posted 11 Apr 2006 9:21 am
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| Thanks, Mark. Was that at the Oakland A's stadium? In '74 at the Oakland A's stadium, I saw the Dead, The Band, CSN, and The Who all on the same bill. And shortly thereafter, weed was growing in the outfield. |
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Mark Lind-Hanson
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Menlo Park, California, USA
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Posted 11 Apr 2006 3:00 pm
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I went to Oakland Stadium twice in 1974- for two completely different Bill Graham "Day on the Green" shows- (#1- the Dead, Beach Boys, New Riders,& Commander Cody- & the 2nd- CSNY, the Band, Jesse Colin Young & Joe Walsh.)
Are you sure you are remembering it right, Daryl?
I meant the Paramount Theater in Oakland,
last year, for Bob. |
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James Cann
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Phoenix, AZ
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Posted 11 Apr 2006 6:05 pm
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| Did Bob play "Summer Days and Summer Nights"? |
Hate to say it, Darryl, but if it was either the first or the third song in the set, I have no idea.[This message was edited by James Cann on 11 April 2006 at 07:06 PM.] |
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Alvin Blaine
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Picture Rocks, Arizona, USA
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Posted 11 Apr 2006 7:47 pm
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quote  id Bob play "Summer Days and Summer Nights"?
Hate to say it, Darryl, but if it was either the first or the third song in the set, I have no idea.
In Vegas, the only song he played from the "Love and Theft" album was "Tweedle Dee & Tweedle Dum".
In Sun City he didnt do any songs off that album. Then in Tucson he did three songs of that album.
If you want to see the set list from every Dylan show then Click Here |
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Darryl Hattenhauer
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Phoenix, Arizona, USA
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Posted 11 Apr 2006 9:02 pm
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Alvin,
Great site! I used to be an expert on Dylan decades ago. I'm way out of touch.
Mark,
This is kind of funny because I've been having memory problems in the last couple of years. I'd really like to know if there is some way to prove or disprove what I remember about who was playing. It would be hilarious if I'm now imagining things.
Yes, it was called "Day on the Green." I didn't know there was more than one. The Dead started the show. The stage was behind centerfield (?) and we were sitting in the stands behind the homeplate area. Some red freak started a fight (the usual in the mid 70s). My drummer friend Steve Miller (true name, no relation) finished it (the usual to this day).
I can't remember if it was The Band or CSN that went next. I remember The Band as a bit of a let down after seeing them with Dylan--both shows one night, but I can't remember if the Dylan/Band was in Oakland at the Coliseum or in SF at the Cow Patty.
By the time The Who were on, we were close to the front, where it was jam-packed SRO. Since it was always hard to see in those situations, my 6' 4" self would offer his shoulders for any chick who wanted to sit up there and gyrate. Townsend had a plate full of small white things he kept eating by the handful.
Is there a way we can find out if those 4 bands really gigged on the same show?
[This message was edited by Darryl Hattenhauer on 11 April 2006 at 10:05 PM.] |
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Jason Schofield
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Posted 11 Apr 2006 9:30 pm
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This is really getting off topic but I looked up the Grateful Dead's '74 show at Oakland in an archive and found this review.
June 8th, 1974 Oakland-Alameda County Coliseum
Hot day at a Day on the Green. Had to move from the Green to the stands for some shade. The Dead, the Beach Boys, New Riders and Commander Cody. Beach Boys seemed out of place in this line up. However, they acquited themselves nicely. The Dead were on. Full house at the Oakland Coliseum. Typical early seventies set. Wall of Sound at a Day on the Green. It worked well, although on this recording, there is the same hiss and 'distanced' vocals as the Steal Your Face album. Even though this isn't representative of the Dead's best technical sound live,(see 9/28/75 for a great example of an 'intimate' sounding live show)this is a rockin' show. Keith is up front throough most of the mix, maybe because its an audience recording. Give it a three overall. |
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Darryl Hattenhauer
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Phoenix, Arizona, USA
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Posted 11 Apr 2006 11:09 pm
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Jason,
I appreciate the help.
I "know" it couldn't have been this show. I saw the Bleach Boys in the 60s in high school. Even saw Dennis Wilson shopping for clothes at College-Hi in Sacramento, chicks squealing, etc. But I've seen the Dead only once, and the others not at all.
I sure do remember Cody albums though. It was the people who were "down to seeds and stems" that got the weed growing in the outfield. And "mama hated diesels" when I started driving them that year. |
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Mark Lind-Hanson
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Menlo Park, California, USA
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Posted 12 Apr 2006 7:31 am
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Well I know that the Who DID play the Oakland Coliseum with the Dead but that was in October 1976.
As I recall the Band came on before CSNY who were the headliners- this was summer 74, and a month or two after the BEach Boys- Dead thing.
As for what I thought of the Dead's performance in June 74, well, I certainly enjoyed it. Listening to a tape of the concert they do some pretty interesting things in the "space" segment" after/during Playing in the Band.Reminiscent of some avant garde modern "classical" stuff, sans theremin. The New Riders and Cody were both really in their element also.
But as far as I am aware, these four bands NEVER shared the same stage all at once.
One way to check this for yourself would be to go to the wolfgang's vault website (drop the apostrophe?) which has about every single Bill-Graham-produced-anything searchable on it.
C'n we go back to talking about Merle & Bob?
Is there anyone else out there in the SW currently following or planning to catch them? (me,I had to pass up the Santa Rosa show owing to work schedules) |
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Pete Finney
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Nashville Tn.
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Posted 12 Apr 2006 8:25 am
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I'm planning on driving to Memphis to catch one of the shows at the Orpheum Theater. Seen 'em both many times over the years but can't pass up a chance to see 'em together in a really cool and relatively intimate venue. A great chance to catch up with a few old pals in each organization AND eat some good barbecue!
Doesn't sound like they perform anything together, that's a shame...
Or have they? I think Dylan singing "I Take a Lot of Pride in What I Am", or Haggard singing "Things Have Changed", to name just two examples, would be very cool!
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Mark Eaton
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Sonoma County in The Great State Of Northern California
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Posted 12 Apr 2006 8:49 am
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I also had to pass up the Dylan/Hag show in Santa Rosa-about 10 minutes from me-we were heading to Puerto Vallarta for a week's vacation and to get out of the seemingly endless rain!
Funny reading about you guys discussing the different Day on the Green(s)-I went to a bunch of 'em-and it's really hard for me to keep the lineups straight from those days! 
P.S. Dylan and The Band played at the Oakland Arena.
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[This message was edited by Mark Eaton on 12 April 2006 at 09:51 AM.] |
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Wally Taylor
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Hardin, Kentucky, USA
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Posted 12 Apr 2006 12:12 pm
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Hey Alvin,
Glad to see that there is someone else that thinks Norm is a mighty fine steel player. You don't seem to hear much about him on the forum, but I have an album that is all instrumentals by Merle's band entitled The Strangers, and Norm does one called, Steelin Corn that I really enjoyed long before I became interested in playing the steel myself. I think Norm is a top notch musician and deserves a lot more recognition that he seems to get. Anyone else here a Norm fan? |
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Brett Day
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Posted 12 Apr 2006 12:25 pm
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| I'm a Norm fan. I've e-mailed him a few times and he loves it that I'm a GFI player too. Brett, Emmons S-10, Morrell lapsteel, GFI Ultra D-10 |
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Mark Eaton
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Sonoma County in The Great State Of Northern California
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Posted 12 Apr 2006 12:38 pm
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I'm a recent addition to the GFI club, and I've loved Norm's playing for years!
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Darryl Hattenhauer
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Phoenix, Arizona, USA
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Pete Finney
From:
Nashville Tn.
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Posted 12 Apr 2006 2:27 pm
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The "Strangers" instrumental albums with Norm and Roy Nichols all have a bunch of great stuff on them. I wish someone would compile a (long!) CD of the best of them like they did with Don Rich's Buckaroo stuff...
It's great to see a great artist like Merle be so loyal to the great players like Norm Hamlett that helped him get there. A lot of singers never get that but Merle sure does...! |
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Darryl Hattenhauer
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Phoenix, Arizona, USA
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Posted 13 Apr 2006 8:24 am
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Pete,
Yeah, Hag and Willie are great about loyalty. Are there any others you can think of? I don't really know much about who keeps their sidemen around. Most stars shed sidemen like they do clothes. |
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Larry Bell
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Englewood, Florida
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Posted 13 Apr 2006 8:46 am
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George Strait and Alan Jackson come to mind.
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Alvin Blaine
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Picture Rocks, Arizona, USA
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Posted 13 Apr 2006 1:52 pm
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| George Strait and Alan Jackson come to mind. |
But they don't use their road bands on the recordings, like Merle does. Think of all those great Merle hits that have Norm, Biff, Don, Roy, and Bonnie on them then count all the George Strait hits with the Ace In The Hole Band playing on them.
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| Glad to see that there is someone else that thinks Norm is a mighty fine steel player. |
You should have heard his solo on "Going Where the Lonely Go" the other night. It gave me goose bumps and made me tear up. It was just perfect!! |
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Marlin Smoot
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Kansas
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Posted 13 Apr 2006 4:03 pm
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| Can't forget Waylon and Ralph... |
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Jim Hoke
From:
Tennessee, USA
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Posted 16 Apr 2006 4:49 pm
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| Conway Twitty kept his drummer on the payroll long after "Chop was healthy enough to play..maybe some others in his band, I don't know. Old school, folks..... |
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