Steel in Lubbock

Steve Alcott · Post by **Steve Alcott** » 4 Feb 2006 1:43 pm

I'll be in Lubbock through the 16th after TSGA; anybody playing in the area?

Chuck Cusimano · Post by **Chuck Cusimano** » 6 Feb 2006 12:12 pm

While in Lubbock, try to hear Wilbur Keeton, if you can find out where he's playing. He's outstanding! I'll try to get him to post on this thread. He is a forum member, but hardly ever posts anything.

Michael Garnett · Post by **Michael Garnett** » 6 Feb 2006 6:50 pm

Steve, you might not see too much live music that weekend, it's Spring Break in a small college town. I know I'll be out of town that weekend.

-MG

Sonny Jenkins · Post by **Sonny Jenkins** » 7 Feb 2006 8:35 am

Hey Michael,,,see you're from leveland,,,is there a steeler named Howard Isaacs still around??? I played in group with him back in late 60s or early 70s,,,???

Wilbur Keeton · Post by **Wilbur Keeton** » 7 Feb 2006 9:39 pm

Hi Steve,
I remember you from a previous visit down here. I wish I could say there is something going on here, but I don't know about it if it is.
Chuck, thanks so much for the kind words. I wish I was still playing with you. A better friend cannot be had, and not many singers can equal you either.
Oh, by the way, I got to work with Larry Wilbourn a week ago. We had a blast. Wilbur

Michael Garnett · Post by **Michael Garnett** » 7 Feb 2006 11:57 pm

Sonny-

I really couldn't tell you. One of the other guys might could answer you better; I've only met a few of the Lubbock pickers since I moved out here (August 2004). I'll ask around though.

-MG

Sonny Jenkins · Post by **Sonny Jenkins** » 8 Feb 2006 5:45 am

Hey wilbur,,,tell Larry hello for me,,,we go back a long ways,,,back to about '55-'56..LOL.
Is he back around the Lubbock area now,???

Craig Stock · Post by **Craig Stock** » 8 Feb 2006 6:03 am

Hey Wilbur, Are you any relation to Steve Keeton from Joe Ely's old band?

I graduated from Tech back in '83, whatever happened to the old Coldwater Country club from years ago, Is the building still there. I saw alot of great shows back then.

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Regards, Craig

Jeremy Moyers · Post by **Jeremy Moyers** » 8 Feb 2006 8:24 am

Cold Water turned into the midnoght rodeo and was in business up untill a few years ago. The building has now been torn down and something else was built in its place. I do not live in Lubbock anymore, but was born and raised there and still go back as often as possible. My dad, Wally Moyers, use to play at Cold Water back when I was a kid but I hardly remember the place.

Jeremy

Wilbur Keeton · Post by **Wilbur Keeton** » 8 Feb 2006 10:15 am

Sonny, Larry still lives in Oklahoma. He just came down for the show.

Craig, I think I may be a distant kin to Steve Keeton. He played the heck out of them drums.
Wilbur

Craig Stock · Post by **Craig Stock** » 8 Feb 2006 4:36 pm

Thanks guys for the replys.

Coldwater was a mini 'Gilleys' Mechanical Bull, Pool tables, giant dance floor, etc., for a kid from New Jersey smitten with the Urbah Cowboy movie, it was very cool. On thurdays nights, they had a deal called 'Crash and Burn', 35cent 16oz. Lonestars, 25cent Tequila shots and 50cent Tequila Drinks, there was a line around the building every week.

My first week at school I went there with a dorm mate and we had a great time, only problem was driving back down University and making a left onto the other main road at Tech, I accidentally turned into the opposite traffic turning lane, which I wasn't used to yet, had to drive over the median to avoid the on-coming traffic.

Lubbock had a lot of good clubs back then. Used to go to Stubb's once in a while, Stubb was a real nice guy, and once went to a BBQ joint way outside town that had a live band and a Horse drawn carriage with skeletons inside it. I wonder wghat the name was and if it is still around.

The other amazing thing is the amount of muscians from and around Lubbock. Same with racers, I'm into drag racing and Raymond Beadle (Blue Max)and Kenny Bernstein(Bud King) both are from Lubbock. Just found out recently that Kenny B. started the Chesea Pub which we used to go to also.

Thanks for the update.

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Regards, Craig

Bob Watson · Post by **Bob Watson** » 9 Feb 2006 1:48 am

I remember stopping in Lubbock around 1985 and seeing a guy playing a universal 12 string psg at a club I believe was called the Red Raider, or something close to that. I had never seen anyone play a universal at that point in time and I recall that this guy was a good player. I also remember having a great conversation with him about the universal tuning. I have heard that the club burned down a few years after that. I would be curious to know if anyone could identify the steel player I am talking about, it would be interesting to find out where he is at musically after all of these years.[This message was edited by Bob Watson on 09 February 2006 at 01:51 AM.]

Sonny Jenkins · Post by **Sonny Jenkins** » 9 Feb 2006 10:11 am

Wilbur,,last time I saw him he was playing with a group in Houston,,,he was pretty messed up then. Hope he's doing better now!!! I know he had a lot of family in oklahoma,,,one time me, him and bill pickering (the "picks",,a great back up group in the 50s) took a trip (and I do mean "trip", me and larry were about 18-19, bill was older,,) to oklahoma to visit his relatives. When we were kids I would spend the night with him and his mother would make us go to the big Assembly of God church, I think out where the old Cotton Club used to be,,,,man Larry would have them dancing in the aisles,,,,,LOL[This message was edited by Sonny Jenkins on 10 February 2006 at 10:07 AM.]

Steve Alcott · Post by **Steve Alcott** » 9 Feb 2006 10:27 am

Thanks to all who have replied; it's pretty much the same as my last visit. I did get to hear Wilbur, but I had to bring my Mom to get into the Senior Citizens Center. The only other "live" music was a couple of(pretty good) blues bands, a guy with an Ovation 12 string and a computer, and karaoke in a sports bar. No wonder all the talent flees like there's a mob with torches and pitchforks behind them. I hope someone proves me wrong by the time I get there. At least I can get some good brisket.

Wilbur Keeton · Post by **Wilbur Keeton** » 12 Feb 2006 10:46 am

Steve, I just started with a different group that sounds real good. I'll try to let you know where we will be playing when you are coming down. Right now I am not positive just where...probably at the Koko.
Wilbur

Charlie McDonald · Post by **Charlie McDonald** » 12 Feb 2006 3:05 pm

So the Koko is still here. (Don't get around much any more.)

There were good clubs. No more Red Raider Inn. I first started playing at Kenny Bernstein's Chelsea St. Pub; I think I booked the first act there, a gal I played with later.
Then Kenny left. Stubbs went to Austin.
Memories.

Michael Garnett · Post by **Michael Garnett** » 12 Feb 2006 10:52 pm

Bob, that may very well have been Tim McCasland playing the U12 guitar. He's been a U12 picker for a really long time, put out quite a few instructional videos as well. He's a professor out here in the Commercial Music department of South Plains College here in Levelland. A Lubbock native, he's been a guitar picker around these parts for over 35 years.

I'll ask him in my lesson tomorrow if he had a U12 guitar back around then, and I betcha he did. Do you remember what kind of guitar it was?

-MG

baxter vaughan · Post by **baxter vaughan** » 14 Feb 2006 4:13 pm

his 1st name was bruce...and i cannot recall his last name. played a zum u12. an exceptional player. he is a professer at a university in oklahoma now. poor old lubbock has just about dryed up as far as good live music goes.
baxter

Michael Garnett · Post by **Michael Garnett** » 14 Feb 2006 4:43 pm

Hey Baxter, good to hear you're still breathing. Hadn't heard from you in a while. McCasland said it was either him or some other guy, his name did start with a B, but I don't remember what it was, Bruce might be right.

"Just about dried up?"

From the stories I've heard, was it ever really that wet? Mac Davis, Buddy Holly, Waylon, etcetera all had to leave Lubbock before hitting it big. About the only guy I've ever heard of that made it big in Lubbock before branching out was Pat Green, and that's just more of a testament to idiot frat guys not knowing anything about music and buying crap anyway.

-MG

Pat Smith · Post by **Pat Smith** » 15 Feb 2006 3:25 pm

Hey Craig...surely you remember a cat by the name of Lloyd Maines out that direction...I know you remember the Maines Brothers Band....OOHHHH, the morning after a night at Pikefest after the Maines Brothers played....it still hurts!...Lloyd is an awesome picker, all the way around.

Michael Garnett · Post by **Michael Garnett** » 15 Feb 2006 4:43 pm

Lloyd's lived in Austin for a long time now. Yet another great picker who moved to where it was easier to make a living playing music.[This message was edited by Michael Garnett on 15 February 2006 at 04:44 PM.]

baxter vaughan · Post by **baxter vaughan** » 15 Feb 2006 5:10 pm

hey michael...have'nt heard from you in awhile. i have moved to cleburne, tx. been here for a couple of weeks now. i'll put in a good word with old jared and tell him you need to take my place!! the steel picker in question was bruce boggs. who now resides in oklahoma. take care my friend.
baxter

Jake L · Post by **Jake L** » 15 Feb 2006 9:13 pm

Howdy Michael! How's it going? You still have Ol' Red? Drop me a line sometime.
Jake

Bob Watson · Post by **Bob Watson** » 15 Feb 2006 9:25 pm

Michael, I believe that the guy I saw was playing a U12 Zum, which makes it sound like the steel player that Baxter is talking about. Unfortunately I can't remember his name but I do remember that he was a great player. I really haven't seen too many U12 steel players playing in a top 40 country band and as I recall, he did a good job of fitting in. I also knew a guitar player when I lived in Nashville that was originally from Lubbock. We did some road work together. The last time I talked to him he had moved back to Lubbock. His first name was Chuck, but I can't recall his last name at this time. Its sad to hear that Lubbock's music scene isn't up to par. It seems that the intensity of local music scenes fluctuates in cycles, hopefully Lubbock's will come around.

John Macy · Post by **John Macy** » 15 Feb 2006 10:16 pm

Does anybody remember the Inner Ear coffee house back in the 60's??