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Paul Norman

 

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Washington, North Carolina, USA
Post  Posted 30 Dec 2005 7:54 am    
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who played steel on "we could" by llttle
Jimmy Dickens?
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Jerry Overstreet


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Louisville Ky
Post  Posted 30 Dec 2005 8:36 am    
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Paul, here's a recent discussion over on the Music board: http://steelguitarforum.com/Forum10/HTML/200973.html
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Bobby Sparks

 

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Williamston, North Carolina, USA
Post  Posted 30 Dec 2005 8:40 am    
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Paul,
I think that would have been Walter Haynes. Could be mistaken though.

Bobby
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John Bresler R.I.P.

 

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Thornton, Colorado
Post  Posted 30 Dec 2005 9:31 am    
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Depends on which version according to an earlier discussion. Walter Haynes or Buddy Emmons. There's quite a story behind all this too, since Buddy took Walters place in the band. According to what I heard (just gossip) was that Walter was too enebriated to play one night and Buddy sat in. Shortly after that Walter was fired and Buddy was hired.



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Roger Shackelton

 

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Post  Posted 30 Dec 2005 9:49 am    
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Perhaps Buddy Emmons has the answer to this question.

Roger
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Paul Norman

 

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Washington, North Carolina, USA
Post  Posted 30 Dec 2005 11:10 am    
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The album is The best of Little Jimmy Dickens
and it is a pedal steel.
Whoever did it did a good job.
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Walter Stettner


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Vienna, Austria
Post  Posted 30 Dec 2005 11:22 am    
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We are talking about two different versions of the song:

The original version was recorded on May 2, 1955, with Walter Haynes on steel.

On March 31, 1960, the song was again recorded, this time with Buddy Emmons.

There is also a third version around which was released on a late Starday/Gusto pressing (probably from the 1970's), again with Buddy on steel.

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Walter Stettner


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Vienna, Austria
Post  Posted 30 Dec 2005 11:38 am    
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OK, it is more fun to listen that just to talk about something, so here are both versions for you, #1 is the 1955 version with Walter Haynes, #2 is the 1960 version with Buddy Emmons:


http://www.lloydgreentribute.com/vocalclips/dickens1.mp3


http://www.lloydgreentribute.com/vocalclips/dickens2.MP3


Kind Regards, Walter

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Craig A Davidson


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Wisconsin Rapids, Wisconsin USA
Post  Posted 30 Dec 2005 3:00 pm    
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Now if someone would tab it?
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Paul Norman

 

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Washington, North Carolina, USA
Post  Posted 30 Dec 2005 3:03 pm    
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Thank you so much for your answers.
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Paul Norman

 

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Washington, North Carolina, USA
Post  Posted 30 Dec 2005 3:11 pm    
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I have the later version.
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Jack Stoner


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Kansas City, MO
Post  Posted 30 Dec 2005 3:14 pm    
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I have another version on a Little Jimmy Dickens album - Columbia CS8345 "Big Songs by Little Jimmy Dickens". I bought the album new around 1962.

It doesn't list the musicians but I would bet it's Buddy.
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Sam White R.I.P.

 

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Coventry, RI 02816
Post  Posted 30 Dec 2005 3:50 pm    
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Wow you sure can tell the Diffrence in the players. I think the Emmons really sounds great and the best.
Sam White
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John Bresler R.I.P.

 

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Thornton, Colorado
Post  Posted 30 Dec 2005 4:54 pm    
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Craig:

Herb Steiner's new course "Shuffles, Ballads, and Waltzes" has 'We Could' tabbed out. If you want to learn backup licks for it, check out Dick Meis' backup course at www.pedalsteelguitar.net. Both are in the Jimmy Day style, which is real cool.


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Jody Sanders

 

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Magnolia,Texas, R.I.P.
Post  Posted 30 Dec 2005 7:14 pm    
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When Walter was tuning up to play "We Could' on the session, he broke the wound F# string. He did not have another wound string, so he put on a plain string and tuned it to a high F#. Hence the "cool sound" on the entro. The high F# first string had not been invented yet. Jody.
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Red Kilby

 

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Pueblo, CO, USA * R.I.P.
Post  Posted 30 Dec 2005 9:55 pm    
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Thanks Walter, those 2 soundbites sound GREAT!!!!!!!!!!!
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Bobby Boggs

 

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Upstate SC.
Post  Posted 30 Dec 2005 11:21 pm    
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Sam I agree Buddy's version is best.The whole song sounded better. Vocals, fiddles etc etc.Better recording gear helped also.But that's very good playing by Walter when you consider it was cut in 1955.The A&B pedal thing had just been born.As a matter of fact there was no A&B pedal.Just one pedal. They had not yest been split. Way better than Slowly which was cut just a short time earlier. Old timers. What year was SLOWLY cut? Thanks .......bb
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Andy Sandoval


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Bakersfield, California, USA
Post  Posted 30 Dec 2005 11:46 pm    
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Was it in 54'?
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Brett Day


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Pickens, SC
Post  Posted 31 Dec 2005 12:10 am    
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"Slowly" was recorded in 1954. Brett, Emmons S-10, Morrell lapsteel, GFI Ultra D-10

[This message was edited by Brett Day on 31 December 2005 at 12:13 AM.]

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Jack Stoner


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Kansas City, MO
Post  Posted 31 Dec 2005 7:05 am    
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Here's my "copy" intro for We Could that I did about 4 months ago for a female singer. They wanted the "original" intro.

It was done with my Franklin D-10, and a Nashville 112 into an SM57 mike.
http://web.tampabay.rr.com/jstoner1/wecould.mp3
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Walter Stettner


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Vienna, Austria
Post  Posted 31 Dec 2005 7:12 am    
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An interesting detail about "Slowly":

Webb Pierce recorded none less than 4 versions of the song, the first three remained unissued as Webb wasn't convinced of the song.

1) April 21, 1952 (Jimmy Day on steel)

2) July 15, 1952 (Jimmy Day on steel)

3) July 30, 1954 (unknown steel)

4) November 29, 1953 (Bud Isaacs on pedal steel - that is the famous version!)

Kind Regards, Walter

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www.austriansteelguitar.at.tf
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Bobby Boggs

 

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Upstate SC.
Post  Posted 31 Dec 2005 8:26 am    
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Thanks you Walter.........bb
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John Bresler R.I.P.

 

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Thornton, Colorado
Post  Posted 31 Dec 2005 8:50 am    
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Jack:

Nicely done. Great tone, too. Says a lot about the credibility of the Nashville 112. Maybe you should cut a cd by yourself??


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Jack Stoner


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Kansas City, MO
Post  Posted 31 Dec 2005 11:22 am    
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John, I have two instrumental CD's. Mike Gross has been playing cuts from them on his weekly swingin west radio show.

Also, my "Grande Tour" CD is available from the Forum. It has a cut of "We Could" on it but it doesn't have that intro.

(Posting my intro wasn't meant as a plug for my CD's - just wanted to post what I had done on a recent recording session).

[This message was edited by Jack Stoner on 31 December 2005 at 01:45 PM.]

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Ted Solesky

 

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Mineral Wells, Texas, USA
Post  Posted 1 Jan 2006 1:23 am    
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Hey guys, I talked to Jimmy Dickens shortly after he cut 'Big Songs by Little Jimmy Dickens'. He said, 'Jimmy Day played chords that scared me to death.' When I first heard the album, it sounded like Jimmy to me. Then when I talked Jimmy Dickens, he said it was Day.
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