Telecommuting steel guitar

Earnest Bovine · From: Los Angeles CA USA

In another thread, Chris LeDrew wrote:

Dan Tyack · From: Olympia, WA USA

Ben Slaughter · From: Madera, California

Or California.

I've done it already, as I suspect some other folks have. Did a track for an old buddy, and emailed it to him. And yes, I did it for free (but he got what he paid for

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Skip Edwards · From: LA,CA

Yeah, but the guy in India will only use a sitar bar.

I've been doing that email thing for awhile now.
You gotta love it.

Colm Chomicky · From: Kansas, (Prairie Village)

The guy in India will still have to curry it. How's that gonna save any money?

Tom Olson · From: Spokane, WA

Ted Solesky · From: Mineral Wells, Texas, USA

Is the guy in India going to have that 'twang'?

Tom Olson · From: Spokane, WA

Oooh yes! I haff dat twang! Doot doot doot doot doot.

Bob Hoffnar · From: Austin, Tx

I've picked up a few sessions doing the whole thing on line via ftp down/up loads. It works pretty well. I even got paid with paypal.

I don't know where you fools get off making fun of Indian musicians. I've studied and worked with them and they take a back seat to no one.

Bob

Jack Stoner · From: Kansas City, MO

Bob, I don't think anyone is directly dissing musicians.

But, have you ever tried talking to a "tech support" person who's primary language is not American English? It gets pretty frustrating.

And, in reference to the large number of American Corporations that have cut American workers jobs and contracted out to "off shore" companies, again who's personnel's primary language is ot American English and has an American "name" to make it sound better.

Earnest Bovine · From: Los Angeles CA USA

I was trying to make a serious point about outsourcing of a kind of work which we had always considered safe from outsourcing. I used India as an example because we all know it is real; tech support jobs have already gone there. Perhaps I should have mentioned Indiana instead, as Dan suggested.
Overdubbing via file transfer is good for me (in Los Angeles) if I work for a guy in Indiana. But it hurts me if a steel player in Indiana works on a Los Angeles project. In the end I dont know who will gain and who will lose.

Jeremy Moyers · From: Lubbock, TX

I do alot of work like this. infact, I would say that most of the session work that I did last year was done this way. I own a home studio and do work in Atlanta, Nashville and alot down in Texas by telecommuting. I will have the studio email me a basic stereo mix of the tracks, with a count off on the front. Then I will play my tracks, copy and paste the original count off to my steel tracks (so that they can perfectly line up my steel tracks with the original tracks) and either email them back to them or burn them on a dvd and fedex them back. It is a really efficient way of getting players on your projects that you normally would not be able to get because of geographical or economical reasons. It is also a great way to expand your marketability as a session player beyond your limited geographical location. Mail order steel tracks, what a cool idea. Can you imagaine being able to get one of your favorite players on your session without having to fly them in, put them up in a hotel and pay their day rates while they are gone, or without you having to fly to wherever they may live, putting yourself up in a hotel and having to book an unfamiliar studio to cut the tracks in? That reality is now here and it is awsome.

Jeremy

[This message was edited by Jeremy Moyers on 06 November 2005 at 08:03 AM.]

Bob Hoffnar · From: Austin, Tx

Earnest,
A steel player with your playing and reading skills could create a whole new market via ftp. There are plenty of composers/arrangers out there that would use the steel if steel players could handle the music. The trick would be to have the gear at home to do the recording and then getting your name out there to people that don't have access to steel players with strong reading skills.

I get the bulk of my ftp work while I'm on the road. Guys come up after the gig to see if I have time to run by the studio and we end up doing it on line when I get home.

Sorry if I seem like a hot head. I have no problem with India as an example of out sourcing. Its the degrading stereotype stuff that I find offensive.

Bob

Tom Olson · From: Spokane, WA

You must really hate to watch SNL.

Bill Hatcher · From: Atlanta Ga. USA

I do the same thing here at home. I made $3K a couple of weeks ago just emailing Elec., Acoustic, and bass guitar tracks in MP3 formats. I have a client here in Atlanta that I have worked for that I have never met face to face. We just send tracks via Email. I just have them send me a two track mix with a two bar click count off, transfer that over to an ADAT (don't laugh--they are paid for--I get to put all the money in my pocket instead of other studio junk!!) and then lay down the layers of instruments-harmonicas, mandolins, steel, guitars, percussion-whatever. Burn a CD with the count offs on each individual track, convert that to MP3 and email it back. I can work on the tracks when I want to with all my gear set up like I like it. Checks show up in the mail or you can have the money direct deposit into your bank account or Paypal account. This is the future of recording--right now!

Cliff Kane · From: the late great golden state

Someone told me that the legendary Jamaican drum and bass duo of Sly Dunbar and Robbie Shakespeare sell drum and bass loops and samples that they have recorded of themselves to clients to use on record projects. The client has the rights and permission to list Sly and Robbie as playing drums and bass, yet Sly and Robbbie never actually do the session, but are paid for their pre-recorded work that they can sell many times over (I hope I've got that right, correct me if I'm skewing this, it was second hand info). Clever lads.

John Lacey · From: Black Diamond, Alberta, Canada

I've done this concept a few times with my fiddlin' buddy, Calvin Vollrath. I mail him a copy of a Roland VS1680 data disk with the base trax of the tune then he brings it up on his Roland unit, records 3 or 4 stellar tracks then snail mails the ruff mixed tracks back to me. Could do it a more modern way, I guess. I'm surprised that the clients are happy with MP3's, Bill?

Donny Hinson · From: Glen Burnie, Md. U.S.A.

"Ooh yes, dis I ken do juice like Cooly Chocka"!

Per Berner · From: Skovde, Sweden

...and someday soon, we can live our whole lives without ever having to see or talk to another human being. What a good time we will have...

David Mason · From: Cambridge, MD, USA

E-mail me two groupies and a bowl of blow please, I'm too bored to move right now....

Rick Nicklas · From: Verona, Mo. (deceased)

I can't take anymore of this forced technology..... I'm going back and play my "Sim City".!!

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Rick
Kline E9th/S-12, Session 500, Goodrich L-10k

[This message was edited by Rick Nicklas on 08 November 2005 at 05:36 AM.]

Gene Jones · From: Oklahoma City, OK USA, (deceased)

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[This message was edited by Gene Jones on 13 November 2005 at 12:01 PM.]

John Macy · From: Rockport TX/Denver CO

I do lots of this, too, as well as send lots of stuff out to other people for overdubs. Now you access to just about anyone you want regardless of location.

There is a big site related to this out of NYC called www.esession.com.

Michael Johnstone · From: Sylmar,Ca. USA

I've done it a few times - mostly just across town here in L.A. to avoid traffic jams on the 405. One thing I like is that I can take as long as I want and get it just right cause there's no one breathing down my neck. -MJ-

David Mason · From: Cambridge, MD, USA

http://www.esession.com/site/ got me on the site. I poked "guitar" and found out I could hire Earl Slick or Dweezel Zappa to play on my song, and the site's not even officially open yet. Wow. This is going to go crazy, isn't it?

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