Teach Your Children -- with me on PSG

Bill Llewellyn · Post by **Bill Llewellyn** » 1 Mar 2004 4:15 pm

I just got permission from a friend to let others listen to this demo track his acoustic band did recently (they're working toward a fully polished CD). He asked me to add steel to it, so the Jerry G imitation you hear here is me.

Comments welcome!

http://www.rahul.net/thinker/audio/mp3/Teach_demo.mp3

[Edited 11/17/04: Below is an updated version of the demo; also see my post on Page 2 of this thread.]

http://www.rahul.net/thinker/audio/mp3/Teach_demo2.mp3

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Bobby Lee · Post by **Bobby Lee** » 1 Mar 2004 4:20 pm

Great job, Bill! You're no longer a steel guitarist impersonator. You've now reached the point where you're impersonating a guitar player impersonating a steel guitarist!

DUCKING FOR COVER.

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Jim Peters · Post by **Jim Peters** » 1 Mar 2004 4:43 pm

Great job Bill! Very close but you put your own stuff in it too. That is still a great song, we cover it in a csny band that we do 3 or 4 times a year. Maybe next time we play out, I'll try my hand at it too. Jim Peters

Bill Llewellyn · Post by **Bill Llewellyn** » 1 Mar 2004 4:47 pm

One thing I did learn when studying that track in order to 'clone' it (loosely) is that his pulls were all done with the A, B, and occasionally C pedals. No knee levers used. So the changes aren't terribly complicated, but I know I would never have come up with them.

Kevin Hatton · Post by **Kevin Hatton** » 1 Mar 2004 9:10 pm

Excellent job Bill. You sound great.

Jim Palenscar · Post by **Jim Palenscar** » 1 Mar 2004 10:19 pm

Very nice job, Bill!

David L. Donald · Post by **David L. Donald** » 2 Mar 2004 3:27 am

I don't care what anyone says this is a nice steel part by JG.

And this is a very nice version from you Bill. Much of Jerrys nice music and some of you too.

Good tone too, the steel is the best recorded instrument in the mix...
Great job, I am enjoying it.

Chippy Wood · Post by **Chippy Wood** » 2 Mar 2004 3:58 am

Nice one Bill.

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Allen Peterson · Post by **Allen Peterson** » 2 Mar 2004 5:05 am

Very nicely done. I too, have had the opportunity within the last month to play this song with an acoustic band. We haven't recorded it though. JG obviously did not know the rules. He often used the C pedal by itself without the BC combination, particularly in the ride. Imagine that!

Jack Francis · Post by **Jack Francis** » 2 Mar 2004 5:19 am

NICE JOB! Great tone.

Bill Llewellyn · Post by **Bill Llewellyn** » 2 Mar 2004 7:15 am

Thanks, guys.

It was fun. I'll get a chance to refine my steel work for the actual finished CD as well.

I'm glad the tone seems acceptable (to borrow a phrase from Jim Cohen), too. All I did was run my MSA direct. That is, my SuperSustain pickup into my Goodrich L120 pedal, then through a SteelDriver II, through a Lexicon MPX-100, then into my computer. The reverb is a combination of the MPX-100 and the "eVerb" plugin in my recording software. (That eVerb plugin is amazingly powerful.)

I appreciate all the comments!

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Gene Jones · Post by **Gene Jones** » 2 Mar 2004 8:53 am

Incidentally, I heard TYC by JC just yesterday on the elevator music at a local restaurant!

I hadn't heard it in a long time, but it reminded me of my original impression, that whether the steel part resulted from the limitations of the player; or if it was deliberately played down to meet the expectations for the instrument during that era; it was a a not unpleasant, and a hauntingly supportive adjunct to the song.

As a musician, I like it's simplicity, but more importantly, the civilian listeners (and buyers of records) obviously liked it!

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Joerg Hennig · Post by **Joerg Hennig** » 2 Mar 2004 8:56 am

He often used the C pedal by itself without the BC combination

Just my idea but JG might have picked that up by listening to some ´60s country records... the great Ralph Mooney also frequently uses the E to F# change on its own and not always in the "B+C pedal" context.
Sorry Bill my computer is giving me problems - I could not listen to your track yet but I´m anxious to hear it.

Regards, Joe H.

CrowBear Schmitt · Post by **CrowBear Schmitt** » 2 Mar 2004 9:02 am

a job well done Bill

Dave Horner · Post by **Dave Horner** » 2 Mar 2004 9:06 am

Bill,

I love that song and I think your steel playing on the track is superb!! Great job!!

Dave

Dave Boothroyd · Post by **Dave Boothroyd** » 2 Mar 2004 9:24 am

Beautifully played Bill. The Manchester accent on the Graham Nash part needs work though!

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Allen Peterson · Post by **Allen Peterson** » 2 Mar 2004 9:29 am

Joe, You're probably correct. I hadn't thought of that.

Post by **Joey Ace** » 2 Mar 2004 11:03 am

I like it! Thanks for posting the link, Bill.

Roy Thomson · Post by **Roy Thomson** » 2 Mar 2004 11:14 am

You got the "feel" the notes and the pedals.
The whole band captures that song beautifully.

Walter Stettner · Post by **Walter Stettner** » 2 Mar 2004 11:32 am

Great stuff, Bill!

Kind Regards, Walter
www.austriansteelguitar.at.tf

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Jeff Lampert · Post by **Jeff Lampert** » 2 Mar 2004 11:37 am

Wonderful rendition of the song. The steel is terrific. And the singing is impeccable. The whole sound was alive. It was easily one of the best overall works that I've heard on the SGF.

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Dave Van Allen · Post by **Dave Van Allen** » 2 Mar 2004 11:53 am

very nice

I could always hear that West Coast "bounce" in JG's playing...Mooney, Brumley...Owsley...(not Lynn... the other one)

Bobby Lee · Post by **Bobby Lee** » 2 Mar 2004 1:44 pm

All I did was run my MSA direct. That is, my SuperSustain pickup into my Goodrich L120 pedal, then through a SteelDriver II, through a Lexicon MPX-100, then into my computer. The reverb is a combination of the MPX-100 and the "eVerb" plugin in my recording software.

You give a whole new meaning to "going direct", Bill. I can't wait to hear your "unplugged" album.

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Bob Carlucci · Post by **Bob Carlucci** » 2 Mar 2004 3:16 pm

Bill ... Very cool!... I hope you had your black T shirt with a pocket or at LEAST a tie dyed one on when you played that. Jerry would be proud!.... best of luck... you are well on your way! bob

Jeff A. Smith · Post by **Jeff A. Smith** » 2 Mar 2004 3:40 pm

That's a good sounding MSA, Bill.