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jim milewski
From: stowe, vermont
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Posted 14 Oct 2004 3:08 pm
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when you tell a guitar player you play steel they're somehow impressed, (well not always), are steelplayers the "blackbelts" of stringed instruments, lol |
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Bill C. Buntin
From: Cleburne TX
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Posted 14 Oct 2004 4:56 pm
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For me different guitar players react in different ways. I think it depends on how much savvy they have about pedal guitars. The ones who seem real impressed, to me, don't know THAT much about pedal guitars. Because other than the mechanical advantages we have, its still just music. So the GOOD guitar players I run in to aren't overly impressed by pedal steel. |
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Steinar Gregertsen
From: Arendal, Norway, R.I.P.
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Posted 14 Oct 2004 6:06 pm
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I'm very impressed by people who can build a house or fix a car engine.......
It's all about respect for people who master stuff we don't know how to do ourselves.
Steinar
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Farris Currie
From: Ona, Florida, USA, R.I.P.
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Posted 14 Oct 2004 6:15 pm
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two ways to look at it,i have played for yrs.with one lead player,and we twin a lots,then others try to play at same time with steel,ruins everthing.nothing no prettier than 2 taking turns.we have it down to know the exact note to take it or back off.my worse is with a piano!!i'll hush |
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Farris Currie
From: Ona, Florida, USA, R.I.P.
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Posted 14 Oct 2004 6:21 pm
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nothing no prettier,that a lead,and steal working together.i've played for many yrs.with a lead guitar player,we know exactly what note to come in,and exactly what note to get out.also do some twining together,my worse night mare is a piano!!!
i'll hush!!! |
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John Cadeau
From: Surrey,B.C. Canada
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Posted 14 Oct 2004 6:27 pm
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Try telling a sax , or a trumpet player who are into jazz that you play steel guitar,and see what reaction you get. It can sometimes be rather rude. |
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Bob Markison
From: San Francisco, CA
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Posted 17 Oct 2004 7:21 am
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John - as a sax and trumpet and other winds player, I humbly disagree. I developed an abiding love and repect for steel playing long ago, got into playing lap & pedal steel a few years with encouragement from Bobby Black & Joe Goldmark & Ed Littlefield, and studied in TX with Maurice Anderson. I spend a fair amount of energy spreading the word about how great steel playing is for heart and soul and ears. My horn playing continues to advance as a result of working at steel. Any horn player who does not appreciate steel has decided that the world's most challenging instrumental parcourse for the full audible sound spectrum is not of interest. Steel playing also moved me to study guitar, which feels like steel chopped into segments. And I don't find much difference between the liquid glissandos of Johnny Hodges, alto sax in the Ellington bands, and the magic of steel bars sliding over strings. Truth be told, steel is much harder to play well than sax. - Bob |
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John Cadeau
From: Surrey,B.C. Canada
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Posted 17 Oct 2004 9:34 am
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Bob I didn't mean to slight anyone, I know there are a lot of sax and trumpet players and brass instrumantalist in general that have a sincere admiration for the steel guitar, and steel players. I have had some rather negative comments from some though. Examples: at my local legion, every Sunday they have dixie land jazz groups, all fine musicians, however I was chatting with the guitar player, and when the sax player heard I was a steel player, he said you should learn to play a real intsrument. He was serious. Another example, we were talking to a sax player who is reputed to be the best in Canada, I won't mention his name, but he compared the sound of the steel guitar, with that of a cat having it's tail stepped on. I politely said I've heard saxophones that sound like that too. In all fairness though I guess these people have never really listened to a steel guitar played well.
John |
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kyle reid
From: Butte,Mt.usa
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Posted 17 Oct 2004 1:24 pm
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I know a few steel players, including myself, that could end that Sax players career! kr |
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Bob Markison
From: San Francisco, CA
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Posted 17 Oct 2004 3:39 pm
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John - no slight perceived. I'm a great admirer of steel guitar and it's daring and innovative players. That's why I practice (mostly lap) steel daily. I've played all sorts of horn jazz (trad/dixieland, swing, bop, hard bop, avant garde) for 40 years, and I know there's a lot of jazz living inside steel guitars in addition to Hawaiian, country, classical(Perlowin), rock, gospel, roots and other music. I think a lot of horn players have no idea what they are missing. Steel guitar is unparalleled in it's expressive hypnotically beautiful sound (listening to Ingano's Steel Reflections as I write this). - Bob |
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Jennings Ward
From: Edgewater, Florida, R.I.P.
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Posted 18 Oct 2004 1:31 pm
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PLAY STEEL FOR THE BEAUTIFULL ANGELIC SOUND OF IT..........
jENNINGS
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Stu Schulman
From: Ulster Park New Yawk (deceased)
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Posted 18 Oct 2004 1:52 pm
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I have to agree with Steiner,I have no mechanical ability at all,Someone who can listen to the sound of a motor and tell you what's wrong with it,That impresses me.I play a bunch of different instruments and have I've had a few people gawk at the steel trying to figure out what it is.But never has my pedal steel been put on a pedestal. |
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