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J Hill · From: Colorado, USA

Good Morning,

I'm seeing everywhere that there is a Steel with an E9 tuning, which my Carter has, and then a C6 tuning...does that mean if I learn on the Carter I have to learn all over again for the C6? I don't understand the difference. Do the double-necks have both tunings or are they just different in other ways?

Also, is there an article somewhere on the Net that gives a sort of overview on all the Steel guitars available. I know with the plain ole 'guitar' it took me about 6 months to feel like I had a good grip on the differences between all the various brands. Maybe it'll just take me some time. Also, it looks like the Steel guitar is such a rare thing compared to the 6 string, I'll never get to see all the models in person except for maybe at a convention of some sort?

Thanks!

Leila

David L. Donald · From: Koh Samui Island, Thailand

Ask and you will be answered.
But I will suggest doing a search for past gpf orum threads 1st..
Yes D-10's have both C6 and E9.
Most players play E9 " the money neck" and western swing blues and jazz players also play the C6 ( Fun Neck)

Which is not to say you can't play jazz blues and western swingon an E9.

Many techniques from E9 will transfer to C6, blocking, picking and intonation.
BUT there are a lot more pedals, and they are quite different in style of chords they make etc.

I am one of the few who prefers C6, I play E9 because it came with my C6 meck, but have grown to apreciate it also.

For the moment get to know your E9,
if you have an interest in checking out C6, get a 8 string lapsteel ( or 6 string)
and tune it to C6, there will be plenty to learn there till you can get a D-10

Larry Bell · From: Englewood, Florida

I'd be remiss not to mention another option: go to a single-neck 12 string guitar rather than a double-neck. There is a tuning based on E9 and C6 that provides all string grips, pedal changes, and other characteristics of those popular tunings on a single neck. Many pros, e.g., Jeff Newman, Joe Wright, Maurice Anderson, and others have chosen this route. If you prefer the 9th tuning, you tune 4 and 8 to E; if the 6th tuning is the one you use most, tune 4 and 8 to D# and raise it with a knee lever. If you tune to E, the open chord becomes E9; D# gives you B6. E9 and B6 are enharmonic, sharing many notes. E9 and C6 are not, which necessitates learning new chord/fret relationships.

If you like your Carter, you can easily trade up to a 12 string. In fact, Bud Carter plays a 12-string universal tuning himself (Bb6 -- similar to B6, 1/2 step lower).

Read this article: http://www.b0b.com/infoedu/future1.htm

For your other question
Go to a steel show if you get a chance. You can't accept another player's advice about what guitar brand you prefer. It's VERY personal. Some guitars work better for some folks; some others work better for others. What it feels like, how it sounds, how it's built, and other factors determine which you like best. Scotty's store in St.Louis, Bobbe Seymour's in the Nashville area, and a few other shops will have a limited selection of used guitars, but a trip to Scotty's Convention on Labor Day weekend is a true education on all things steel guitar.

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2003 Fessenden S/D-12 8x8, 1969 Emmons S-12 6x6, 1971 Dobro, Standel and Peavey Amps

Pete Burak · From: Portland, OR USA

PedalSteelGuitar.Net
Dick Meis
School of Steel Guitar
8932 Bruce Street
Denver, CO 80260-4909
Toll-Free: 1-877-380-1010
Local: 303-428-4397

According to Mapquest, this steel shop is about 12.5 miles from your town (Not many of us can say that).
Have you checked it out?
I've heard Dick Meis play and he is great!

Bob Blair · From: Edmonton, Alberta, Canada

Yes, for sure get in to meet Dick. He is a very well-regarded teacher. As is Chuck Lettes, a forum member who also resides in Denver.

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